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  1. 5 start, depends on the rankings. https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/drew-timme-9785 Loaded with 4 stars though. https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings/
  2. After the initial line, the line generally moves to keep the betting even.
  3. There's like 5 active threads at a time on here. I vote that it's fine ๐Ÿ˜‰
  4. ed

    KJ to the U

    So what you're saying is that they chose a situation that they thought was better for them, after another school had invested the time and effort into them. i.e. different, but the same. ๐Ÿ˜›
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    Ranking Prediction

    Soo.. how much do you think they SHOULD drop, losing to a team you think should be ranked? ๐Ÿ˜‰ I actually like this - hate the automatic up/down based on win / loss. Look at the totallity, otherwise why bother with anything other than computer rankings? Well, and the talent is undeniable, even if the results haven't quite been there. I have a tough time seeing us going well into the top 10 if we win out - I can't see the top 6 moving much, 7-10 would need to have a BAD streak to drop, and teams like Kentucky could easily move up with a nice run due to strength of schedule. I'd guess we have a ceiling of 8-9, which I wouldn't complain about. ๐Ÿ˜‰
  6. ed

    Ranking Prediction

    Love the optimism, but I dunno man... I don't think you'll see those articles, because MAC. And if you do, the answer will be, because of the MAC. St. Joe's may not have had a great ooc schedule (they did beat Cal, BC, and San Fran), but their in conference is obviously tougher, and even if it weren't, is filled with 'names.'. We don't have that benefit...
  7. Eh. The leading economist studying this for... what? I can't seem to find any info on him doing this work, other than this one working paper. I.e. he did a set of statistical regressions. Doesn't really tell you much in terms of predicting success or value to franchises unless there is some additional info...
  8. ed

    KJ to the U

    You act like his time at ub and him being redshirted was only for his benefit. He's put in his time and his obligation, and is moving on to what he thinks is in his best interest - best of luck to him. Do you get all mad when people leave a job too? All the training?! Where the loyalty st,?! Get over it.
  9. ed

    Ranking Prediction

    Yeah, different standards fo' sho'. But a 20 win season, in a relatively weak conference, is good-ish, at best. ๐Ÿ˜‰ How many heart attacks were had when 20 win Syracuse, in the acc, was the last team in last year, despite them ultimately proving to be good enough for a sweet 16 run? Basketball excellence, imo, should be a program regularly in the running for an at large. That doesn't have to be a Gonzaga; I'm reasonable, I'll take Wichita State. ๐Ÿ˜„ ๐Ÿ˜„ nobody, but nobody on the internet is first running into the f-bomb for the first time here! ๐Ÿ˜‰
  10. ed

    Ranking Prediction

    See all those smileys? I'm calm, and having fun. ๐Ÿ˜„ People bringing up bans (but not suggesting it), and upset over the 'f word'? They need to relax. ๐Ÿ˜›
  11. ed

    Ranking Prediction

    The f-bomb is TOTALLY appropriate for MANY situations. And it's not required to make my point - it's just totally appropriate in context. ๐Ÿ˜„ It's not like I'm insulting anyone or dropping it amongst pre-teens; just saying Graham doesn't give a fuck about mid majors not being able to get good games at home. ๐Ÿ˜›
  12. ed

    Ranking Prediction

    Like you said, just because you say things doesnโ€™t make it true - Kent State has not had sustained basketball excellence. Theyโ€™ve been good - for the MAC. They had a great run in 2002. Other than that, theyโ€™ve won ONE tournament game. So one great year, and one pretty good year. By keep winning and theyโ€™ll play you, Iโ€™m talking about keep winning, like now. Signature wins. Tourney wins. In the national conversation. Not a 22-14 and 10-8 in conf. Would you call that record in the ACC basketball excellence? So why are you calling that excellence in the MAC? This argument is like the bad old days of Reggie - we won 20 games (against scrubs)! Woohoo! And AGAIN, Graham donโ€™t give no flying fucks who those road games are played against this isnโ€™t going to help teams looking to step up. You guys are totally conflating two things
  13. ed

    Ranking Prediction

    What Couch is doing doesn't help that though - Duke replacing a good Texas Tech home game to play Sourthern on the road doesn't help the issue you're talking about, but he'd apparently rank them because of that. A few of you seems to think Couch is trying to get the blue bloods to schedule better games, including with mid majors. He's not. He wants them to play any road game. How's that help a solid mid major that nobody wants to play at their house? They'll still not play there. Saying that you need a true road game to evaluate a team is nonsense. If Gonzaga had no road games and 'only' beaten Duke on a neutral court, his argument is you can't evaluate them. He wants to penalize teams that don't have the "courage" to play road games. Not good road games against good teams. Any road games. And he doesn't even seem to care if they lose. He ranked Michigan State 1 after they lost to Rutgers; say they had beat Duke at home instead? Unranked! Duke losing at BC only dropped them from 1 to 2. And of course the flip side of a mid major playing on the road is there's added notice and credit given for a road win against a tough team. Looking at that WVU win, how many of the stories made a huge deal about it being on the road? Like every one? And it theoretically explicitly counts more come tourney time. Just keep winning, and top tier programs will come play you ((minus a couple blue bloods) see Gonzaga (who isn't exactly scrambling to schedule tough mid majors on the road, eh?)). Don't make what Couch is doing into something it's not.
  14. ed

    Ranking Prediction

    I understand and see the scheduling problem w/ P5s. Point is, what Couch is doing has nothing to do with that particular forest - he's happy to rank the teams after they play any other team, p5 or not.
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