admin Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 MAC has really improved as a conference recently. EMU win against Purdue Akron just pulled off an upset against Northwestern. That is pretty shocking. Buffalo win at Temple and they have a great opportunity to win at Rutgers next week. MAC football is in really good shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillenniumBull Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 That’s pretty glass half full... CMU and WMU seem to be way down, NIU tho with a tough schedule doesn’t look like they have any offense. Ohio hasn’t looked very good and Miami who was supposed to be in the upper half of the East looks awful. Jury still out on Ball St, and BG. I think Toledo is still the team to beat. League is below .500 with really no marquee wins. Even if Akron or UB manage to stay perfect, hard to see an access bowl slot over a one loss American team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 By no marquee wins I assume the wins over Purdue and Northwestern do not count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 6 hours ago, MillenniumBull said: That’s pretty glass half full... CMU and WMU seem to be way down, NIU tho with a tough schedule doesn’t look like they have any offense. Ohio hasn’t looked very good and Miami who was supposed to be in the upper half of the East looks awful. Jury still out on Ball St, and BG. I think Toledo is still the team to beat. League is below .500 with really no marquee wins. Even if Akron or UB manage to stay perfect, hard to see an access bowl slot over a one loss American team. Posted just now By no marquee wins I assume the wins over Purdue and Northwestern do not count. Any time a MAC school beats a Big 10 other Power 5 school it is a marquee win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myBuffalo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Brook - what about a win over a Power 6 school? I know you guys saw that on the sideline of the Temple game - I inquired with my friend at Cincy and they are not touting the AAC as a Power 6 conference the way Temple is...SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 On 9/15/2018 at 11:44 PM, admin said: MAC has really improved as a conference recently. EMU win against Purdue Akron just pulled off an upset against Northwestern. That is pretty shocking. Buffalo win at Temple and they have a great opportunity to win at Rutgers next week. MAC football is in really good shape. I only say that because EMU and Akron are not the marquee MAC teams that you expect upsets from. You would have expected it from Toledo, NIU or Ohio. So maybe the top MAC teams are down. No top 25 this year, but top to bottom, the teams are better. There's not going to be any give me games which were plenty in years past. With us being one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 The MAC is going to be fine. They are probably as good as typical. Some nice wins by G5 programs these first few weeks and the MAC has some of them. The gap is actually closing between the P5 and G5. Which makes sense since why would you go to a bottom P5 team when you can go to a top G5 team. The same ability level. The same level of talent around you but you win more games and can play in a bowl game. You're seeing recruits going to Boise State, Dan Diego State, Houston, Cincy, UCF, USF, App State, Troy, and others over going to a middle of bottom P5 team. Kids want to play, they don't want to sit for a few years. Which is part of the reason the P5 pushed to pass the rule that you can redshirt and still play up to 4 games. This allows them to convince kids to not go to a G5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigo230 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Even though it's a subjective ranking, nice to see UB #57 on this list. I don't recall them ever being that high on any list? Ahead of a whole bunch of P5 teams. https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/cbs/129 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 Nice. And the highest ranked MAC team is ...... Yes it is. Buffalo! Next two games, Rutgers and Army, we are higher which means we will be favored in both matchups as long as we win of course. We might be favored the rest of the way going forward which is pretty crazy. The only game which we will be underdogs is against Toledo and that's only because we're the visiting team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillenniumBull Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 On 9/17/2018 at 6:05 AM, BrooklynBull said: Posted just now By no marquee wins I assume the wins over Purdue and Northwestern do not count. Any time a MAC school beats a Big 10 other Power 5 school it is a marquee win. Maybe I have a higher bar for MAC football, but I do not consider beating low end P5 schools marquee wins, with the exception of maybe the SEC. Especially when they are the historically bad ones. Don’t think most of the country and those who vote in polls do either. Plus the MAC generally gets a handful a year anyway. 2 thru 3 weeks isn’t great. Not saying the MAC is down, but I would say QB play seems to be more questionable around the conference than usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillenniumBull Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Still think the MAC is up? Don’t think the conference managed a single OOC win over a winning team. Leagues best win may be over Nevada. That is down even by MAC standards. Bowl season may be ugly again this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) The MAC-West is the 14th best division in college football according to Sagarin ratings. The P5 conferences claim the top-9 spots. The MAC-East is lower ranked, coming in between the CUSA divisions. The reality is that the Bulls are playing for a MAC championship in Detroit. There isn't much concern about what happens outside of the conference games. It was a great OOC that will help with recruiting but that won't change what bowls the MAC gets into. The MAC isn't getting into a NY6. Playing for a trip to the Camellia Bowl, Bahamas Bowl, Potato Bowl, or the Dollar General Bowl. It wasn't the strength of CUSA that made TCU make great leaps forward. It wasn't the strength of the WAC that propelled Boise State forward. Just keep putting in the work and doing things the right way. Be a Boise State or a Gonzaga for your conference. The MAC is good enough to build a program in the conference. Edited October 1, 2018 by dutchcountry7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillenniumBull Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, dutchcountry7 said: The MAC-West is the 14th best division in college football according to Sagarin ratings. The P5 conferences claim the top-9 spots. The MAC-East is lower ranked, coming in between the CUSA divisions. The reality is that the Bulls are playing for a MAC championship in Detroit. There isn't much concern about what happens outside of the conference games. It was a great OOC that will help with recruiting but that won't change what bowls the MAC gets into. The MAC isn't getting into a NY6. Playing for a trip to the Camellia Bowl, Bahamas Bowl, Potato Bowl, or the Dollar General Bowl. It wasn't the strength of CUSA that made TCU make great leaps forward. It wasn't the strength of the WAC that propelled Boise State forward. Just keep putting in the work and doing things the right way. Be a Boise State or a Gonzaga for your conference. The MAC is good enough to build a program in the conference. The MAC this year is not getting into a NY6 game, they already have twice. Yes the MAC is going to be fine. The MAC is always fine. So even by Saragrin ratings we suck more than usual, it’s fine. Every year we are playing towards a conference championship and a bowl game, just like every other team in every other conference, so you made a great point there. If only we scheduled up more often, play games against teams in the FCS Missouri Valley... we will be fine. Oh, and they play better basketball in the MVC too, ain’t that a kick in the balls... Edited October 1, 2018 by MillenniumBull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 21 minutes ago, MillenniumBull said: The MAC this year is not getting into a NY6 game, they already have twice. Yes the MAC is going to be fine. The MAC is always fine. So even by Saragrin ratings we suck more than usual, it’s fine. Every year we are playing towards a conference championship and a bowl game, just like every other team in every other conference, so you made a great point there. If only we scheduled up more often, play games against teams in the FCS Missouri Valley... we will be fine. Oh, and they play better basketball in the MVC too, ain’t that a kick in the balls... Western Michigan got the one G5 spot. Sure, it is possible to get it, but it would require the Bulls to be the highest ranked G5 teams. So it means not only likely needing to be undefeated but also for no other team like UCF, Boise State, South Florida, BYU, App State, Cincinnati, Houston, North Texas, and others can't have a good season. The path to the Bulls building the program is to regularly win games have to make 8 win seasons the norm. The flash in the pan seasons decimates MAC programs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillenniumBull Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 NIU also got in. And they weren’t undefeated. Ugh, I’m assuming your a fan of the sport and the school and the conference. And a conference mates best season is already forgotten. It’s been what? 5 years? Makes you wonder why we even bother in this sport. We should of went all in on wrestling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 On 10/4/2018 at 3:36 AM, MillenniumBull said: NIU also got in. And they weren’t undefeated. Ugh, I’m assuming your a fan of the sport and the school and the conference. And a conference mates best season is already forgotten. It’s been what? 5 years? Makes you wonder why we even bother in this sport. We should of went all in on wrestling... No, they were in under the old system. The structure changed with the adoption of the playoff with new contracts for bowls, revenue sharing, and other factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clodney Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 We've had 4 years of playoff football and 1 MAC team made the cut in that time. That means 25% of the time a MAC school has been the G5 representative. I don't think it's far fetched at all for our goal every year to be a NY6 bowl. Nobody cares about an 8-win MAC school, including your beloved Buffalonians. They only showed up for the Army game because for the first time ever something bigger was potentially on the line. I'm happy this team is winning. This is still looking like the best year ever for UB football, but the complete domination by Army was disheartening. We couldn't plug A-gaps the entire game on the FB dive. The announcer said at one point they had 6 yards a carry on first down. That's just pathetic given the experience of our defense. This team had the chance to finally get someone outside of WNY to pay attention to them and they fell flat on their faces. If they just found a way to make it competitive then maybe they would have a shot at clawing their way back into some national recognition. Instead, I doubt anyone talks about us the rest of the year. Let's hope it motivates them going forward. The MAC is lousy this year and the opportunity is still there to at least win this conference. See you all in Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillenniumBull Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 15 hours ago, dutchcountry7 said: No, they were in under the old system. The structure changed with the adoption of the playoff with new contracts for bowls, revenue sharing, and other factors. Holy semantics Batman. Ok, NIU got in when there was a automatic G5 spot as long as they were ranked high enough while now there is an auto G5 spot. Aka easier. </sarcasm> You make a great point. </sarcasm> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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