Kevin Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) After all that time, they promote Whitesell Edited April 6, 2019 by Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB05 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Well, that should at least keep our guys here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, UB05 said: Well, that should at least keep our guys here Not if what Hodgeson said was true, that they were all recruited by him UB makes money on losing Oats. Keeps the 750k, and assumes to have a lower salary than other candidates. I was right all along in assuming Whitesell was higher than Hodgson from the start. Edited April 6, 2019 by Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB05 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Just now, Kevin said: Not if what Hodgeson said was true, that they were all recruited by him UB makes money on losing Oats. Keeps the 750k, and assumes to have a lower salary than other canidates. Sorry, I should have been more specific. Should at least keep our current players here. As for banking the extra cash, they should use it for better assistants or put it in the rec building fund (does this exist?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDerekRx Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Not sure what my initial reaction is. Maybe because of all the names, time, and search Im a little letdown. But I have no idea what went on behind the scenes. Whitesell probably was the best bet to keep the current roster intact and if that comes to be true, then its not a horrible "hire" at all. This roster is very good and keeps some consistency. I just dont think BH was to be trusted or else he would have been a good candidate. His lack of HC experience probably hurt too. After hearing Murray, Lanier, Stepehens etc... I think I was just hoping for that splash. Although after the dust settles Im just happy we did the work and have made a decision. Now lets start building towards next season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Jim Whitesell in my opinion is a great choice, especially if he can get a top recruiter to be on his staff With that said why did it take so long? It comes across like you settled for someone you didn't really want to hire in the first place 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire17 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I’m on board. Just wish it had been decided earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDerekRx Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, squire17 said: I’m on board. Just wish it had been decided earlier. I think I was ok with the heavy search for the bigger fish... As long as we didn't lose anything in the process. And so far it appears despite the search, we didn't lose anyone on the roster. So the wait didn't have any effects that I can see right now... as far as recruits go that was going to happen either way. I guess in a perfect world we could have kept both Hodgson and Whitsell while Oats created a new staff. But didnt fall that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skrabukes Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Jim is about as nice of a guy as one can be. He's also an EXCELLENT basketball coach. He has been around the game for a long time and knows many coaches. I am very much rooting for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, xDerekRx said: I think I was ok with the heavy search for the bigger fish... As long as we didn't lose anything in the process. And so far it appears despite the search, we didn't lose anyone on the roster. So the wait didn't have any effects that I can see right now... as far as recruits go that was going to happen either way. I guess in a perfect world we could have kept both Hodgson and Whitsell while Oats created a new staff. But didnt fall that way. I wonder if one of the reasons for the length of this process was about keeping hodgson on staff somehow. Maybe just weird timing but hodgson releases his goodbye to buffalo right before whitesell is named head coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBoy Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 The point is, the administration wanted Whitesell to go up against some of the top names in the business for this job and not just hand it to him if he wasn't the best fit. This should make us even more confident that he crushed his interviews over everyone else 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
961819 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Personally I am not sold on this and think Alnutt should be ashamed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullions Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, squire17 said: I’m on board. Just wish it had been decided earlier. Same. This took too long. For reference Apr 9 2015 - Hurley announced he's leaving Apr 9 2015 - Oats named interim Apr 13 2015 - Oats made permanent Edited April 6, 2019 by Bullions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateNate88 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, skrabukes said: Jim is about as nice of a guy as one can be. He's also an EXCELLENT basketball coach. He has been around the game for a long time and knows many coaches. I am very much rooting for him. Rooting for him as well. Can only imagine how much this fiasco cost the university. Alnutt needs to explain himself for throwing money around so easily. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB05 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 He gets well earned bonus points for STAYING IN BUFFALO and keeping the team together after our ex coaches bolted 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everlast2504 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tee4three said: I wonder if one of the reasons for the length of this process was about keeping hodgson on staff somehow. Maybe just weird timing but hodgson releases his goodbye to buffalo right before whitesell is named head coach I think there were more legal implications with the vacation to Florida BH took then anything else. The move is getting the praise from several of the graduating players. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Ok. Let’s go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdubyas Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Congratulations Coach! I too, wonder why this took so long. I wonder if he can recover any of the decommits. I am so happy for the continuity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBoy Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bullions said: Same. This took too long. For reference Apr 9 2015 - Hurley announced he's leaving Apr 9 2015 - Oats named interim Apr 13 2015 - Oats made permanent This is a terrible argument. It is only April 6... Hurley was still our coach for three more days. Oats was named coach on Apr. 13, one full week later than right now. It is is totally different situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
961819 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 All I’m saying is we better hire a damn good recruiter. Whitesell is a good coach, but what we need is someone that can rebuild this shitshow of a recruiting class Pardon my language 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonickname Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Translation: No one wanted the job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDerekRx Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, 961819 said: Personally I am not sold on this and think Alnutt should be ashamed Just now, 961819 said: All I’m saying is we better hire a damn good recruiter. Whitesell is a good coach, but what we need is someone that can rebuild this shitshow of a recruiting class Pardon my language I think this is extremely excessive but its your opinion. The options were start over with a new era or keep some experience and keep continuity. And also its possible 2-3 of Alnutts top choices turned down the job. We dont know. They chose to keep the roster continuity. But yes his recruiter hire/staff will be absolutely key to him keeping the program rolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB05 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Nonickname said: Translation: No one wanted the job This is nonsense. We aren’t Kennesaw State or Stetson. We’ve made the tournament 4 out of 5 years, have a great current roster, and are a launching pad for coaches into 7 figure salaries. I’m sorry if I’m being an ass but this “no one wanted the job” narrative is garbage 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
961819 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Just now, xDerekRx said: I think this is extremely excessive but its your opinion. The options were start over with a new era or keep some experience and keep continuity. And also its possible 2-3 of Alnutts top choices turned down the job. We dont know. They chose to keep the roster continuity. But yes his recruiter hire/staff will be absolutely key to him keeping the program rolling. There’s nothing excessive about it, it’s just different from your opinion. I had my doubts about Alnutt, this just proved them. They should’ve hired a new coach from a P5 school with recruiting connections and had Whitesell stay as an assistant. This is just embarrassing in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDerekRx Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 1 minute ago, 961819 said: There’s nothing excessive about it, it’s just different from your opinion. I had my doubts about Alnutt, this just proved them. They should’ve hired a new coach from a P5 school with recruiting connections and had Whitesell stay as an assistant. This is just embarrassing in my opinion Yes but you're also assuming he didn't offer any of the rumored P5 guys the job...? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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