dutchcountry7 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 How that we know the schedule, what is your projection for the season? My take: OOC: 8-5 MAC: 14-4 MAC Tournament Champs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeseph Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I'll do a bit more digging into the schedule but I would sign up for this ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB05 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 24-7 (ish) without enough quad 1 wins to be an at large. Hopefully win the MAC tournament Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, dutchcountry7 said: How that we know the schedule, what is your projection for the season? My take: OOC: 8-5 MAC: 14-4 MAC Tournament Champs. I think 8-5 is reasonable, but I think MAC would be 11-12 wins. I feel at end of season we will have a good shot at the MAC tournament. If we play at similar pace, I see a drop of about 5 points per game to around 79 average. I attribute the drop in points per game to a dip in 2pt percentage FT percentage, and perhaps a slight increase in turnovers, as they have not played together for as long. I hope we keep up the defensive intensity and hold opponents to 73 points or fewer a game. So add in a couple of tourney wins and a 20+ win season. May not be popular, but that is my expectation. Edited September 18, 2019 by DocCas86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 We will win some and lose some. Then we will have to win three or four games in the MAC Tournament to go to the NCAA. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, BrooklynBull said: We will win some and lose some. Then we will have to win three or four games in the MAC Tournament to go to the NCAA. Agree. This season will have ups and downs. It will look different from seasons past but we will still be a solid team. Obviously the goal is to win every game but let’s face it we will lose more than 4 games. That said just build and be clicking come late February into March and win the MAC tourney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skrabukes Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I haven't looked super closely at the schedule as of yet, but I think that the 1st post seems reasonable. 14 wins might be a tad high, although I think that the MAC will be down for several opponents, so maybe it's realistic. I think our boys will be very strong overall, taking a step back but not several (32 wins is just unrealistic, but mid-20s is very realistic in my eyes). This team is extremely athletic, so if their shooting can be on point, they will be a handful for most, if not all opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChubbyHubby Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 23-8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Well this is surprising... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TML1000 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Third in the MAC East...behind Kent who graduates Walker. Lol is the only appropriate response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, DooleyBull06 said: Well this is surprising... This tweet also list Jayvon as a preseason first team all conference. And Antwain Johnson as newcomer of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue32 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Having first team Jayvon, newcomer of the year Antwain Johnson, and presumptive DPOY favorite Davonta Jordan and finishing behind Kent with 0 award winners would be actually difficult to do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) 3rd is a bit surprising. Can't really fault them having bowling green 1, they will be a tough team this season Edited September 19, 2019 by Tee4three Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB92 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 My son and I spoke about this the other day when I was explaining to him Buffalo's OOC schedule. He said that UB had the best regular season ever by a MAC team and were ranked for the entire season. He felt that if UB didn't meet Texas Tech, they could have been a final 8 team last year (and I agree). He thinks the drop off from the senior production (Harris, CJ, Perk) will be too much to overcome...and the loss of the recruits at the level they were. I can't blame him -- he is right. But I told him that just because UB doesn't win 30 games this year, they still can have a strong MAC season this year and get a bye. We'll see. I think people on this fan board are overly optimistic about the contributions that the newcomers and those who didn't play alot will make. But that's to be expected -- this is a fan board after all. However, I do think the cupboard is not bare and Graves + Jordan and some of the other guys progressing (Segu / Williams) will make us quite competitive. We will see how other guys fit in. It will be an interesting season and an interesting challenge. I had hoped Oats and the guys he brought in would be doing it, but that was not in the cards. So we will play with what we have. 8 - 5 OOC and 11 - 7 in conference...I would think are reasonable expectations. So 19 wins are what I say, regular season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeseph Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, UB92 said: and the loss of the recruits at the level they were. The class that Oats/Hodgson had coming in was undoubtedly a step above anything we've seen. That being said... if we didn't see that class I think we'd all be raving about the class we DO have coming in. We didn't lose any current players and the staff did a remarkable job recruiting in short time. The turnover rate is the same as it would have been and the talent is still high (likely still a step above what other MAC schools can pull). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TML1000 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Jeseph said: The class that Oats/Hodgson had coming in was undoubtedly a step above anything we've seen. That being said... if we didn't see that class I think we'd all be raving about the class we DO have coming in. We didn't lose any current players and the staff did a remarkable job recruiting in short time. The turnover rate is the same as it would have been and the talent is still high (likely still a step above what other MAC schools can pull). This is what many people seemingly forget about...when it comes down to it, our ability to make the NCAA's rides on if we are the best team in the MAC. Will we be as good as we were last year in the eyes of the national media and people who do not follow the MAC as closely? Likely not. Will we be the best team in the MAC and good enough to once again win the conference? That is a yes in my book. Looking at BG specifically, they lose two of their best five and I do not think anyone would argue that the talent level of the players they have coming in does not compare to UB's. Yet many are just assuming BG will be the MAC team to beat. Of course we need to see what this year's team will look like on the court but the same goes for nearly every team, in every season. It is exceedingly rare the position we were in coming into last season where we returned nearly all impact player's and had such little turnover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, UB92 said: My son and I spoke about this the other day when I was explaining to him Buffalo's OOC schedule. He said that UB had the best regular season ever by a MAC team and were ranked for the entire season. He felt that if UB didn't meet Texas Tech, they could have been a final 8 team last year (and I agree). He thinks the drop off from the senior production (Harris, CJ, Perk) will be too much to overcome...and the loss of the recruits at the level they were. I can't blame him -- he is right. But I told him that just because UB doesn't win 30 games this year, they still can have a strong MAC season this year and get a bye. We'll see. I think people on this fan board are overly optimistic about the contributions that the newcomers and those who didn't play alot will make. But that's to be expected -- this is a fan board after all. However, I do think the cupboard is not bare and Graves + Jordan and some of the other guys progressing (Segu / Williams) will make us quite competitive. We will see how other guys fit in. It will be an interesting season and an interesting challenge. I had hoped Oats and the guys he brought in would be doing it, but that was not in the cards. So we will play with what we have. 8 - 5 OOC and 11 - 7 in conference...I would think are reasonable expectations. So 19 wins are what I say, regular season. I have some company now in the 11-7 club although I certainly hoping for better. However, I believe this team will improve over the course of the season and I am optimistic they will peak in March. I think they have a legitimate shot at winning the MAC tourney and earning another NCAA tourney bid. This team compares to Nate Oats first year - that team peaked to win the MAC tournament and gave a Miami (FL) team (that lost in Sweet 16 to eventual champ Villinova) all they could handle in round of 64. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Three days in Cleveland. That’s what our schedule is a build up to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 Just now, DooleyBull06 said: Three days in Cleveland. That’s what our schedule is a build up to. That's really all that matters. This team isn't getting an at-large. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB92 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 32 minutes ago, dutchcountry7 said: That's really all that matters. This team isn't getting an at-large. Certainly the team will not be ranked pre-season. But...should the team leave Charleston undefeated...they will be ranked since people (i.e. voters) now know who they are. They are starting from a higher point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB92 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Jeseph said: The class that Oats/Hodgson had coming in was undoubtedly a step above anything we've seen. That being said... if we didn't see that class I think we'd all be raving about the class we DO have coming in. We didn't lose any current players and the staff did a remarkable job recruiting in short time. The turnover rate is the same as it would have been and the talent is still high (likely still a step above what other MAC schools can pull). Regarding what is in bold...that is one way to look at it. But if you feed me filet mignon instead of minute steak for a few years, my "floor" becomes filet mignon. Don't give me a lesser cut and say "a few years ago, you would have loved this cut". The bar has changed and for the better. There are higher expectations now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, UB92 said: Certainly the team will not be ranked pre-season. But...should the team leave Charleston undefeated...they will be ranked since people (i.e. voters) now know who they are. They are starting from a higher point. Agree with both you and Dutch. If this team leaves Charleston undefeated then yea at large would be in play. But that’s a big if. The beauty is that we control our own destiny with 3 days in March Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGBull Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 27 minutes ago, UB92 said: Certainly the team will not be ranked pre-season. But...should the team leave Charleston undefeated...they will be ranked since people (i.e. voters) now know who they are. They are starting from a higher point. That will be tough to do. A lot of good teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fosterclogfear Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, DooleyBull06 said: Well this is surprising... Edited September 19, 2019 by fosterclogfear didn't mean to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, SGBull said: That will be tough to do. A lot of good teams. Agree, some quality teams in the tournament. FWIW Flordia / Xavier Rank < 48 per this website (barttorvik has them at #1 and #37) respectively). 53 / UConn https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/17790 57 / Miami FL https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/17783 100 / Missouri St https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/17655 109 / Buffalo https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/17627 Towson / St. Joseph's Rank > 144 per this website. (barttorvik has them at #143 and #286) respectively). Edited September 19, 2019 by DocCas86 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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