dutchcountry7 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just looked at KenPom and there are currently a lot of teams in the MAC all ranked at the same level. These are all basically toss ups. 75 - Toledo 100 - Buffalo 104 - Ball State 105 - Bowling Green 108 - Kent State 118 - Akron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 51 minutes ago, dutchcountry7 said: Just looked at KenPom and there are currently a lot of teams in the MAC all ranked at the same level. These are all basically toss ups. 75 - Toledo 100 - Buffalo 104 - Ball State 105 - Bowling Green 108 - Kent State 118 - Akron I think it’s too early to put much value into the analytics. Only bc most MAC teams have played non D1 opponents. We are guilty of that. And games like that skew the numbers. But I do agree the MAC will be a dogfight. Toledo and BG look good so far. As does Ohio. Gonna be tougher than years past mainly because we are younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
961819 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, DooleyBull06 said: I think it’s too early to put much value into the analytics. Only bc most MAC teams have played non D1 opponents. We are guilty of that. And games like that skew the numbers. But I do agree the MAC will be a dogfight. Toledo and BG look good so far. As does Ohio. Gonna be tougher than years past mainly because we are younger. Speaking of that, Central Michigan’s schedule so far would be easy for most prep schools to do well with. Wonder if they forgot that they’re a D1 team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, 961819 said: Speaking of that, Central Michigan’s schedule so far would be easy for most prep schools to do well with. Wonder if they forgot that they’re a D1 team Sam Houston State is a good team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB94Bull Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 40 minutes ago, dutchcountry7 said: Sam Houston State is a good team. Are they D1? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
961819 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, dutchcountry7 said: Sam Houston State is a good team. I was talking about Michigan-Dearborn, Mississippi Valley State, and Siena Heights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 hours ago, 961819 said: I was talking about Michigan-Dearborn, Mississippi Valley State, and Siena Heights Wow all of those schools have lower (more competitive) acceptance rates than Akron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
961819 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, rma said: Wow all of those schools have lower (more competitive) acceptance rates than Akron I’ve met plants that could probably get into Akron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB92 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, 961819 said: I’ve met plants that could probably get into Akron Akron is a weird school. On one hand, it has one the best polymer science programs in the world. Fantastic amounts of industrial-relevant innovations and research rolling out small companies. On the other hand, it offers Associates degree programs in many areas, kind of like a community college. So...those plants you refer to may be able to get into some programs at Akron, but not others...unless they were really smart plants. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsFan14 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 The commentators on the Harvard-Buffalo game were saying that Buffalo was going to win the MAC without a doubt. I wasn't sure if they were just trying to hype up the game due to it being in Toronto. It certainly made me feel good. I think Ohio might be one of the best teams in the MAC East. Young team but they are going down the right path. They will be much better in March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, BullsFan14 said: The commentators on the Harvard-Buffalo game were saying that Buffalo was going to win the MAC without a doubt. I wasn't sure if they were just trying to hype up the game due to it being in Toronto. It certainly made me feel good. I think Ohio might be one of the best teams in the MAC East. Young team but they are going down the right path. They will be much better in March. Agree, Ohio is dangerous. I also thought the announcers for the Harvard game were really good. They seemed like they did their homework on both teams. One of them did say that if we find out roles we should win the MAC, which I agree with. A+ broadcast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
961819 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, DooleyBull06 said: Agree, Ohio is dangerous. I also thought the announcers for the Harvard game were really good. They seemed like they did their homework on both teams. One of them did say that if we find out roles we should win the MAC, which I agree with. A+ broadcast. Glad to hear the broadcast was good, I was at the game and didn’t hear it but watched the Furman V Alabama game last night on ESPN+ and the announcers talked like Alabama was the best team to ever step on a basketball court. Zero talk of how well Furman was playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, 961819 said: Glad to hear the broadcast was good, I was at the game and didn’t hear it but watched the Furman V Alabama game last night on ESPN+ and the announcers talked like Alabama was the best team to ever step on a basketball court. Zero talk of how well Furman was playing Speaking of their broadcast...wow is it a tough listen. I feel like the announcers don’t even know they players names. The analysts is terrible. Feels like he’s 90, it takes him forever to get a thought out. Just watch one broadcast and it’s further evidence that they only care about football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
961819 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Funny what happens when Central Michigan actually plays a D1 team. Getting blown out at halftime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 BG with an impressive comeback win against Western Kentucky. BG and Toledo are so far establishing themselves as 1 and 2 in the MAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
961819 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Central Michigan with another HUGE win over D2 Trinity Christian, looking forward to watching them play Amherst high school next weekend! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikescherrer8 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 3 hours ago, 961819 said: Central Michigan with another HUGE win over D2 Trinity Christian, looking forward to watching them play Amherst high school next weekend! Probably the biggest win of the last 10 years for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeseph Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Akron plays well at Louisville and BGSU beats Cinci. We’re going to have our hands full come MAC play... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecoveringHillbilly Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I was following BGSU, Cincy blew it, BGSU kept hacking wisely because the Bearcats hit 31-55 from the line! Justin Turner went out with a hammy. BGSU has Dartmouth up next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasketBull Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 7 hours ago, RecoveringHillbilly said: I was following BGSU, Cincy blew it, BGSU kept hacking wisely because the Bearcats hit 31-55 from the line! Justin Turner went out with a hammy. BGSU has Dartmouth up next. Not quiet yet. Bowling Green has Nevada up next in the Paradise Jam championship game. Even if they win their OOC schedule probably isn't strong enough to build an at-large resume but pretty good showing thus far. It should be an excellent field for the MAC tournament this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clodney Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Can anyone explain to me how a team can be ranked #97 after starting the season 5-1 with wins over #42 and #85 and their only loss coming on the road against #34? Kenpom's calculations are garbage to midmajors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, clodney said: Can anyone explain to me how a team can be ranked #97 after starting the season 5-1 with wins over #42 and #85 and their only loss coming on the road against #34? Kenpom's calculations are garbage to midmajors. What team is this? Sounds like a scary team. BG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese_66 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, clodney said: Can anyone explain to me how a team can be ranked #97 after starting the season 5-1 with wins over #42 and #85 and their only loss coming on the road against #34? Kenpom's calculations are garbage to midmajors. Kenpom's rankings factor in the preseason ratings for the first two months of the season so I'm assuming Bowling Green is being held back because of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, cheese_66 said: Kenpom's rankings factor in the preseason ratings for the first two months of the season so I'm assuming Bowling Green is being held back because of that Also the analytics tend to be off just a bit in the early season as more data is generated. Numbers can be skewed, especially when teams play against high school squads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 hours ago, clodney said: Can anyone explain to me how a team can be ranked #97 after starting the season 5-1 with wins over #42 and #85 and their only loss coming on the road against #34? Kenpom's calculations are garbage to midmajors. What @cheese_66 said. To prevent teams rankings from jumping up and down 50 places based on one game (making the rankings meaningless), the pre-season ranking is factored in an every day the weight of the pre-season ranking is reduced and the actual results only ranking has more weight. Even if there were no games played for any team on a day the rankings would change a little for that day as the pre-season weight is reduced. In January the rankings are purely based on this season's results only. That is actually why our Bulls are so high... You might have noticed we didn't drop a lot when Dartmouth beat us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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