promotherobot Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 https://conferenceusa.com/ I never paid much attention to C-USA. My wish was always for the Bulls to end up in the American Conference. But C-USA has a nice roster of schools, many large public universities in major urban centers: Houston, Charlotte, San Antonio, El Paso, Miami, Norfolk, Birmingham to name a few. The level of competition is close to the MAC but it feels like a more prominent conference. Travel would be a bear but I wonder what revenues would be like? Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoBull Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Not a big fan of moving from conference to conference. The thought about Conference USA is intriguing. However, you cherry-picked some of the better cities. Not wild about trips to Hattiesburg, Ruston (La), Murfreesboro, or the other BG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotherobot Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 34 minutes ago, ChicagoBull said: Not a big fan of moving from conference to conference. The thought about Conference USA is intriguing. However, you cherry-picked some of the better cities. Not wild about trips to Hattiesburg, Ruston (La), Murfreesboro, or the other BG. True but you have to admit the MAC is mostly locales like those. I mean Toledo and Suburban Chicago and Detroit are about it for urban areas in the MAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 MAC has geography for fans. Have to get a lot more prestige for us to give that up. CUSA does not provide that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotherobot Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, rma said: MAC has geography for fans. Have to get a lot more prestige for us to give that up. CUSA does not provide that. Not following you. Are you saying the MAC is better because all the schools are driving distance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGBull Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 The MAC and CUSA are about even in football and basketball. CUSA is probably slightly better in football, the MAC in basketball. Not worth the travel cost. The only non-P5 we should consider is the American. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOWARD 71 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I do not see anything to gain from a move like that. A much better place to move is the American, certainly an upgrade.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, promotherobot said: Not following you. Are you saying the MAC is better because all the schools are driving distance? Yes. The majority are, especially the East schools. It’s also important for Olympic sports with smaller budgets too. Edited December 21, 2019 by rma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasketBull Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 CUSA has been way worse than the MAC in basketball for years and only marginally better for football. No way is that worth the increased traveling cost. the old pre-AAC raided CUSA maybe but the current CUSA is a shell of its former self. I’ll stick with the MAC until a spot opens up in the AAC. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gxtrex Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, BasketBull said: CUSA has been way worse than the MAC in basketball for years and only marginally better for football. No way is that worth the increased traveling cost. the old pre-AAC raided CUSA maybe but the current CUSA is a shell of its former self. I’ll stick with the MAC until a spot opens up in the AAC. I agree. No reason to move laterally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enrique14150 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 CUSA does nothing for me. It doesn't feel like it would raise the needle on public, student, or alumni interest. Increased costs without an even amount of benefits. It always seemed like a random collection of schools from within a range of 2/3 of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoBull Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 14 hours ago, promotherobot said: True but you have to admit the MAC is mostly locales like those. I mean Toledo and Suburban Chicago and Detroit are about it for urban areas in the MAC. Not sure anyone in Chicago considers DeKalb suburban Chicago. Lots and lots of farmland in-between. DeKalb is "down-state," just like Rockford (which is entirely latitudinally north of the northernmost part of the City of Chicago). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weareub46 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Id also say thats a lateral move at best. AAC or bust for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecoveringHillbilly Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) Rice would be our true AAU peer, and Marshall would be the only squad whom we have some history. It would be cool to play ODU and the Florida schools for some reasonable recruiting in-roads. Otherwise the costs, potential lack of increased fan interest, and CUSA's scattered and low revenue media deals would make things tough. Plus, we'd likely have to drop wrestling since CUSA does not sponsor the sport and the MAC likely would not let us stay. CUSA has been ok for the former SBC schools and the start-up football programs, but has dulled the UTEP and Southern Mississippi brands, schools with high hopes of MWC and AAC, respectively, saving them. Edited December 23, 2019 by RecoveringHillbilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull_In_Exile Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 It's too lateral a move to be worth it... If it's just football hoops, the exposure could be nice, but the costs of travel for all sports would make it a net negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antayat Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 (edited) What if UB could join A-10 in all sports and help create an East Coast football only conference? UConn, UMass, Liberty and ARMY are all independents. Each needing an answer to their football scheduling. A-10 would be a huge upgrade in basketball. Also A-10 would be closer schools to BU with most Universities being primarily on the east coast. This scenario would need Temple to rejoin the Big East as well. That would be 6 schools. Two more needed to create a conference. Toronto and Delaware perhaps? Toronto would/could be a huge rivalry for BU. Something that BU really lacks in the MAC. A football only upgrade could be something that Toronto and Delaware could swing while staying in their current conferences for all other sports. I dont know. Just a neat fantasy of mine. Edited December 25, 2019 by antayat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull_In_Exile Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 2 hours ago, antayat said: What if UB could join A-10 in all sports and help create an East Coast football only conference? UConn, UMass, Liberty and ARMY are all independents. Each needing an answer to their football scheduling. A-10 would be a huge upgrade in basketball. Also A-10 would be closer schools to BU with most Universities being primarily on the east coast. This scenario would need Temple to rejoin the Big East as well. That would be 6 schools. Two more needed to create a conference. Toronto and Delaware perhaps? Toronto would/could be a huge rivalry for BU. Something that BU really lacks in the MAC. A football only upgrade could be something that Toronto and Delaware could swing while staying in their current conferences for all other sports. I dont know. Just a neat fantasy of mine. Might be nice but a lot of "what if" involved in this one. The "alliance", let's call it, would have to have at least 2 set Bowl agreements, and an alternate... As well as a TV contract in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Don't like the idea of being football only in a conference. Or joining the A-10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 20 hours ago, antayat said: What if UB could join A-10 in all sports and help create an East Coast football only conference? UConn, UMass, Liberty and ARMY are all independents. Each needing an answer to their football scheduling. A-10 would be a huge upgrade in basketball. Also A-10 would be closer schools to BU with most Universities being primarily on the east coast. This scenario would need Temple to rejoin the Big East as well. That would be 6 schools. Two more needed to create a conference. Toronto and Delaware perhaps? Toronto would/could be a huge rivalry for BU. Something that BU really lacks in the MAC. A football only upgrade could be something that Toronto and Delaware could swing while staying in their current conferences for all other sports. I dont know. Just a neat fantasy of mine. BU dropped football in 1997. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antayat Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 17 hours ago, BrooklynBull said: BU dropped football in 1997. Hahaha sorry about that. I hope no one is offended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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