thatdudeBlume Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 OK so our defense is trash again but seriously, how does every team hit all the 3s against us? Even contested 3s are splashing, wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubbulls84 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, SGBull said: While I do feel like our defense has been very bad this year, we have also gotten very unlucky. Teague, a guy who shoots 20% from 3, has hit multiple tough 3s in a half against us. He flopped on that last one, but I’m sure didn’t get a warning like we’ve been getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire17 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Not worried. Just have to tighten it up a bit on D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGBull Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Erie County said: Wouldn't that be because of the defense? Everyone has a higher FG% against UB's 300th ranked defense. Yes definitely part of it, not denying that. But sometimes players have hot shooting nights and cold shooting nights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatdudeBlume Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, Erie County said: Wouldn't that be because of the defense? Everyone has a higher FG% against UB's 300th ranked defense. So where do the improvements need to be made on defense to prevent the 3s? Do they need to focus on transition and breaking up the play at mid court? Or do they need to figure out some type of zone defense against it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Wash rinse repeat. We sound like a broken record. Unless guys start to buy in then I’m afraid we peaked against DePaul. This team plays zero defense. Zero. We are shooting 48%. But they are shooting 55. Can’t win like this. At this point we are who we are. And only with a blazing shooting night by us can we win. Pathetic lack of commitment to defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, SGBull said: While I do feel like our defense has been very bad this year, we have also gotten very unlucky. Teague, a guy who shoots 20% from 3, has hit multiple tough 3s in a half against us. I was just thinking this, seems like teams hit shots against us shooting 56% from 2 and 43% from 3. The 3 point percentage should drop. Not out of it yet But defensively we back up a bit too much. Not enough help defense, lack of switching and communication Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Erie County said: I think a zone would be great for lowing FG% Also, I like the press personally. It's the best defensive scheme they've shown by far Id love for them to press and then switch between a zone and man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Yea bc the answer for defense is to switch to a defense we don’t play. That makes sense. If communication and defensive rebounding is a problem for us then how do you guys feel a zone will make that any better? Have you ever seen teams that don’t play zone try to play a zone? Also if 3s are falling for the opposing team a zone will only encourage more 3 taking. This team is lost, using a zone won’t help imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB05 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 This is not fun to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatdudeBlume Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, DooleyBull06 said: Yea bc the answer for defense is to switch to a defense we don’t play. That makes sense. If communication and defensive rebounding is a problem for us then how do you guys feel a zone will make that any better? Have you ever seen teams that don’t play zone try to play a zone? Also if 3s are falling for the opposing team a zone will only encourage more 3 taking. This team is lost, using a zone won’t help imo. That's fine. Appreciate your point. Was just posing a question, where does it start? What can they do to defend against teams shooting 50+%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivantheturrible Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Wow. This is flat out terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubbulls84 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Why is Johnson in this game? He can’t do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, thatdudeBlume said: That's fine. Appreciate your point. Was just posing a question, where does it start? What can they do to defend against teams shooting 50+%? Sorry I’m just frustrated. It starts with the players buying in and committing to defense. Jordan doesn’t even look like a former DPOY. There has to be better ball pressure. Better communication of the weak side. Better help and team defense. If teams are going to drive on us then we need to funnel them to Mballa. Instead we give them the lane and a lay up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuchMany Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Interesting that Giambatista is sitting next to the coaches. Wonder if they're looking for some senior leadership to keep the bench spirits up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivantheturrible Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Erie County said: Fire up the hot take thread again!!!!!! It’s starting to get to the point where they’re not hot takes, but just beating a dead horse. And that’s a problem. This team isn’t done for the year or anything, but they will be if something doesn’t change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, DooleyBull06 said: Sorry I’m just frustrated. It starts with the players buying in and committing to defense. Jordan doesn’t even look like a former DPOY. There has to be better ball pressure. Better communication of the weak side. Better help and team defense. If teams are going to drive on us then we need to funnel them to Mballa. Instead we give them the lane and a lay up. Zero team defense all a bunch of individuals Zone would force them to work together, communicate. Both things they seem to refuse to do. Another option let Jordan rome and read the play and have him be the help everywhere. Let the other guys provide the pressure. Let Jordan finish the defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB05 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Found our silver lining for tonight, Brock looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire17 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Give Johnson the rock. He is smoking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotherobot Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I'd love to know what exactly Whitesell is coaching here. What the plan? Miss lots of shots? Play no defense? Turn the ball over every possession? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB05 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, promotherobot said: I'd love to know what exactly Whitesell is coaching here. What the plan? Miss lots of shots? Play no defense? Turn the ball over every possession? Yes you nailed it, that’s what he’s coaching. /s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotherobot Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Does Mbala translate to "bricklayer?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotherobot Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, UB05 said: Yes you nailed it, that’s what he’s coaching. /s Then tell me what this team is trying to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatdudeBlume Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Literally no one can finish at the rim. This has been an issue all season long. And then we finally get a finish by Hardnett with chance for a and 1 and miss the free throw. Infuriating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tee4three said: Zero team defense all a bunch of individuals Zone would force them to work together, communicate. Both things they seem to refuse to do. Another option let Jordan rome and read the play and have him be the help everywhere. Let the other guys provide the pressure. Let Jordan finish the defense Often times when a team isn’t good at something the solution is never to try something fundamentally different. I think we can agree that on offense we struggle against a zone defense right. What makes you think the players on this team can grasp learning and employing a zone defense when we can’t execute zone offense. You think there’d be some crossover of zone principles. But hell whatever let’s try it. At this point whatever, this team is lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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