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« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2012, 02:21:03 PM »

Why are people so willing to dismiss Zordich?

Agreed with this. When Zordich has actually played, he has looked promising, and it's not like he has been playing in ideal situations. He has only played if someone was hurt, or the game was essentially over. This is the first season where he is going to get the bulk of the 1st team reps in practice (I assume), so I expect him to do big things. I like Licata, but this season I feel like Zordich will give us the best chance of winning, and considering Quinn's chair could get extremely hot if we only win 2 or 3 games again, it's the right call for Zordich to start IMO
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« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2012, 03:26:58 PM »

I was also not a fan of Zordich. I remember him making many mistakes and only ever found success when running the ball. After watching just 1 or 2 practices to me it seemed like Licatta had a better arm too. I almost feel like Z would fit better in a wildcat type of play such as the Jets will probably do with Tebow. I also don't like the fact of so many different QB's. Let Licatta be the starter for the next couple of years and he will only get better.
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« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2012, 04:31:32 PM »

Why are people so willing to dismiss Zordich?

Agreed with this. When Zordich has actually played, he has looked promising, and it's not like he has been playing in ideal situations. He has only played if someone was hurt, or the game was essentially over. This is the first season where he is going to get the bulk of the 1st team reps in practice (I assume), so I expect him to do big things. I like Licata, but this season I feel like Zordich will give us the best chance of winning, and considering Quinn's chair could get extremely hot if we only win 2 or 3 games again, it's the right call for Zordich to start IMO

You are comparing Zordich to Davis.  Like comparing Ashley Olson to Kathy Bates.  Your memory is skewed my man.  You remember Zordich being a tough runner and got yards with his feet.  Ultimately knocked him out of the game and for the rest of the season.  Showed very little through the air. 
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« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2012, 08:07:06 PM »

While I'm not a huge Zordich fan, people should not judge him based on his freshman year because it is very hard to succeed in D1 as a freshman at any position, especially QB.  We needed someone that year, so Alex got to play.  This is now his 3rd year, so if he has worked hard with the coaches, then he should be greatly improved.  A lot of it depends on the effort he has put in and quality of coaching.  We'll find out soon how he does.  He appears to be a high effort guy, so I am optimistic he can come through.  It should be a good year for the QB with the experienced line and great RB's. 
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« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2012, 09:13:20 PM »

Did some of you not see the spring game? It showed a complete 180 from Z's frosh appearances. Throw 2010 away. Last fall camp he challenged Chaz to the last week before the Pitt game. This fall camp, Quinn indicated he could make the call as early as this weekend/early next week.
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« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2012, 10:14:48 PM »

Why are people so willing to dismiss Zordich?

Agreed with this. When Zordich has actually played, he has looked promising, and it's not like he has been playing in ideal situations. He has only played if someone was hurt, or the game was essentially over. This is the first season where he is going to get the bulk of the 1st team reps in practice (I assume), so I expect him to do big things. I like Licata, but this season I feel like Zordich will give us the best chance of winning, and considering Quinn's chair could get extremely hot if we only win 2 or 3 games again, it's the right call for Zordich to start IMO

Didn't Davis get benched for Zordich in 2010, and then Zordich played a few games as starter before he got hurt? And man, there were some games where he looked like he couldn't hit the side of a barn from 10 feet away.  One game, Ohio or EMU I think (someone green), probably the worse QB performance I've seen. The guy just looked way way way out of his depth.

I'm hoping he's a lot improved this year, but I'm not holding my breath.
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« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2012, 02:47:15 AM »

Why are people so willing to dismiss Zordich?

Agreed with this. When Zordich has actually played, he has looked promising, and it's not like he has been playing in ideal situations. He has only played if someone was hurt, or the game was essentially over. This is the first season where he is going to get the bulk of the 1st team reps in practice (I assume), so I expect him to do big things. I like Licata, but this season I feel like Zordich will give us the best chance of winning, and considering Quinn's chair could get extremely hot if we only win 2 or 3 games again, it's the right call for Zordich to start IMO

You are comparing Zordich to Davis.  Like comparing Ashley Olson to Kathy Bates.  Your memory is skewed my man.  You remember Zordich being a tough runner and got yards with his feet.  Ultimately knocked him out of the game and for the rest of the season.  Showed very little through the air. 

Still doesnt discount the fact that he was a freshman who was thrown in to action, and clearly wasnt ready for it. Not many QBs are going to look good in that situation (especially with how bad our OLine was). I thought considering the situation, he showed promise and a will to win.
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« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2012, 08:08:38 AM »

I wish people would remember that Drew didnt look absolutely stellar in his early action either.  But he was also better than anything they had at the time as well.
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« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2012, 07:06:08 PM »

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I wish people would remember that Drew didnt look absolutely stellar in his early action either.  But he was also better than anything they had at the time as well.


This, he only got in due to injury in '05, and when he got hurt in practice in '06...there was talk about a 3-4 star prospect taking  the job from him in '07...that prospect decommed and it was Willy's team but he didn't dominate on field until 2007.
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« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2012, 09:08:47 AM »

I followed that highly rated QB's career somewhat after he chose BC. He transferred to Delaware St and ended up playing LB. So he never challenges Willy. As much as we rag on Hofher for not bringing in a solid QB until he got Drew, Gill also had a tough time getting quality, competitive QB's until he grabbed Maynard. If Drew had gotten hurt in '08/'09 we would have been sunk, fast.

Looking today, having a Sr in Davis with starting experience as a 3rd stringer, is a luxury by comparison.
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« Reply #40 on: August 09, 2012, 12:37:41 PM »

Why are people so willing to dismiss Zordich?

Agreed with this. When Zordich has actually played, he has looked promising, and it's not like he has been playing in ideal situations. He has only played if someone was hurt, or the game was essentially over. This is the first season where he is going to get the bulk of the 1st team reps in practice (I assume), so I expect him to do big things. I like Licata, but this season I feel like Zordich will give us the best chance of winning, and considering Quinn's chair could get extremely hot if we only win 2 or 3 games again, it's the right call for Zordich to start IMO

You are comparing Zordich to Davis.  Like comparing Ashley Olson to Kathy Bates.  Your memory is skewed my man.  You remember Zordich being a tough runner and got yards with his feet.  Ultimately knocked him out of the game and for the rest of the season.  Showed very little through the air. 

Still doesnt discount the fact that he was a freshman who was thrown in to action, and clearly wasnt ready for it. Not many QBs are going to look good in that situation (especially with how bad our OLine was). I thought considering the situation, he showed promise and a will to win.

I agree 100%.....Case McCoy and David Ash didn't burn it up at Texas past year (they stunk), and they had a better O-Line; Wes Lunt as a true FR QB at Oklahoma State this year is expected to struggle on a team coming off a Fiesta Bowl win.

As Hillbilly said, Zordich's spring game was very good; Licata, not so much.  The job is Zordich's to lose......
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« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2012, 06:31:53 PM »

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I followed that highly rated QB's career somewhat after he chose BC. He transferred to Delaware St and ended up playing LB. So he never challenges Willy.

Well the recruit as far as I remember was promised a shot at QB at UB so he choose us, then BC changed their mind to give him the shot at QB so he went BC, and his shot at BC lasted a couple of days before he was listed as a DB. They went from Matty Ice, to a solid Chris Craine, and then 3 coaches in 3.5 years...I don't know if the QB recruit can be easily dismissed especially with the Buzz inside the stadium when he committed...the recruit was Gill's signature signing, we had Starks, the recruit was 2 way I could see us trying out the Nebraska option offense in Camp in '07 which would have put Willy at a disadvantage...

Thankfully things sometimes just work out they way they should.
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« Reply #42 on: August 09, 2012, 09:10:29 PM »

He can be easily dismissed because he ultimately couldn't even make the depth chart at QB at Delaware State. Even looking up his LB stats he was little more than a special teamer, got in just 10 games combined his So and Jr years, and didn't play his Sr season. Whether he was injury prone or not a strong enough athlete, there's just nothing that screams he could have challenged anyone at any FBS position.
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« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2012, 06:29:24 AM »

http://ubfan.com/board/index.php?topic=2607.0

Very interesting results.  James Starks won the poll.  Sampsel finished second.  Do people think Starks really has a shot at QB?  I really think it's Paoli's job to lose, but what do I know, I'm 400 miles removed from Buffalo.

Just taking a look back at where this discussion was in the summer of 2005.

Every season is a new start, and despite thinking you know where all the pieces fit, you can never predict where you will end up.
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« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2012, 11:35:43 AM »

I got to see Chris Johnson (the QB that went to BC instead of UB) a lot when I was still referring HS games. He was never a great QB but was a superior athlete. The team played with a ‘monster’ position on defense and he covered the entire field from that position. As I remember it, it was when Kelly moved to Cincinnati as a head coach that he started to contact Johnson to shift his commitment from Buffalo. I guess that put him on the radar of BC and, not expectantly, Johnson chose the higher profile program. Patterson, NJ is a poorer, old, small urban area and Johnson was eventually overwhelmed academically and socially in Boston, dropped out for a while and then finished up in Delaware (I think he did graduate but I am not sure). This is a case where big time college sports disregarded what is best for the kid and turned into a money making machine. There was low risk on taking the athlete and high reward if it worked out. It was a business decision.  If it doesn’t’ work out, step aside kid and we'll get someone new. Johnson would not have 'made' the UB program but the UB program, with less pressure and a smaller more personal program, could have helped him.

And since no one asked me, I think Zordich will be much better this year and at least part of that will come from learning by watching Anderson last year.
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