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Anucha Browne Sanders is leaving UB for a job at the NCAA.  She will be in charge of all three women's basketball championships. Good luck at the NCAA.

http://www.ncaa.com/news/ncaa/article/2012-08-09/browne-sanders-named-vice-president

Good for her....I'm sure Danny will find someone new to replace her shortly. On the positive front I'm sure many of the marketing ideas/projects for football are already set so she left at an ideal time.

Don't think many on the staff were fond of her

You have to think Danny will want to bring in alot of his own people.

Don't think many on the staff were fond of her

If you are trying to imply that there is more to this than meets the eye, the classy thing to do is wish her well, and let her go in peace.

Don't know much about what she was like day-to-day, but whenever I ran into her when she was working the crowds at games, she always seemed outgoing and available.  I never got the impression that she was not fully invested in her position here.

Congratulations to Anucha on her new position, I wish her well.

I don't think her marketing worked well at all. The new person needs to find a way to get people in the seats. That should be the only benchmark for success for marketing.

I don't think her marketing worked well at all. The new person needs to find a way to get people in the seats. That should be the only benchmark for success for marketing.

I don't know the person so I have no comment on her. But I am responding to your marketing response let's be fair who has put fans in the seats at UB? I think there is a problem but it isn't with any one person at UB in my opinion. It is just the UB program as a whole and how the university feels about upgrades to there facilities that I feel is lacking. Some will say money but the money is there if they really wanted to at UB in my opinion so those that say no money I disagree. UB as a university in my opinion doesn't see it as neccessary or a good investment take your pick in there minds of those in charge of such deccission at UB at this time like a Central Florida that is building or a UNC-Charlotte that is building or a SMU that is building or improving athletic facilities etc at this time which is unfortunate for a major university which UB is, if your a Buffalo Bulls fan and want UB athletics to grow bigger then it is now?

Local television lacks also I feel, I will explain in Buffalo yes we get some Time Warner Cable Sports Network games. For football there is national ESPN family of networks that get firsts on games etc I understand that. But I am speaking specifically for basketball because we share with three other local college basketball programs Canisius, Niagara and St. Bonaventure with Time Warner Sports Network to me that is a problem for growth in my opinion attendance wise at UB because the casual Buffalo sports fan isn't making any one Big 4 basketball program must see tv or must go to the game, it is like they don't really exist in my opinion out of sight out of mind in Buffalo.

All our Buffalo Bulls games home and away should be on local television if not picked up nationally in my opinion to grow the sport in Buffalo. What ever isn't being picked up nationally tv wise should be picked up either all on TWCSN 13 or if conflicts on local Buffalo PBS TV like UConn and CPTV. Buffalo I feel lags behind almost all other areas with tv coverage for a major university like UB is. I am not talking about ESPN3, MAC internet etc that super fans like myself watch. If you want the casual Buffalo fan and the older Buffalo fan that isn't all into finding games on the internet to know you even exist as a program all the games need to be on local tv in today's times in my opinion in Buffalo to get them hooked on watching and caring to start with weather UB wins or loses. I realize there will be many UB fans that will say like Buffalo Bills owner Ralph Wilson or the late Chicago Blackhawks owner Bill Wirtz no don't give the home game away for tv for free (even though it isn't really free because we pay for cable) without a sellout already but in today's times that is very short sighted because as we can see that really doesn't make a big difference blacking out football and basketball games in my opinion with attendance at UB. Let's Go Buffalo

[Some will say money but the money is there [sic]]

I don't think her marketing worked well at all. The new person needs to find a way to get people in the seats. That should be the only benchmark for success for marketing.

I don't know the person so I have no comment on her. But I am responding to your marketing response let's be fair who has put fans in the seats at UB? I think there is a problem but it isn't with any one person at UB in my opinion. It is just the UB program as a whole and how the university feels about upgrades to there facilities that I feel is lacking. Some will say money but the money is there [sic] if they really wanted to at UB in my opinion so those that say no money I disagree. UB as a university in my opinion doesn't see it as neccessary or a good investment take your pick in there minds of those in charge of such deccission at UB at this time like a Central Florida that is building or a UNC-Charlotte that is building or a SMU that is building or improving athletic facilities etc at this time which is unfortunate for a major university which UB is, if your [sic] a Buffalo Bulls fan and want UB athletics to grow bigger then it is now?

Local television lacks also I feel, I will explain in Buffalo yes we get some Time Warner Cable Sports Network games. For football there is national ESPN family of networks that get firsts on games etc I understand that. But I am speaking specifically for basketball because we share with three other local college basketball programs Canisius, Niagara and St. Bonaventure with Time Warner Sports Network to me that is a problem for growth in my opinion attendance wise at UB because the casual Buffalo sports fan isn't making any one Big 4 basketball program must see tv or must go to the game, it is like they don't really exist in my opinion out of sight out of mind in Buffalo.

All our Buffalo Bulls games home and away should be on local television if not picked up nationally in my opinion to grow the sport in Buffalo. What ever isn't being picked up nationally tv wise should be picked up either all on TWCSN 13 or if conflicts on local Buffalo PBS TV like UConn and CPTV. Buffalo I feel lags behind almost all other areas with tv coverage for a major university like UB is. I am not talking about ESPN3, MAC internet etc that super fans like myself watch. If you want the casual Buffalo fan and the older Buffalo fan that isn't all into finding games on the internet to know you even exist as a program all the games need to be on local tv in today's times in my opinion in Buffalo to get them hooked on watching and caring to start with weather UB wins or loses. I realize there will be many UB fans that will say like Buffalo Bills owner Ralph Wilson or the late Chicago Blackhawks owner Bill Wirtz no don't give the home game away for tv for free (even though it isn't really free because we pay for cable) without a sellout already but in today's times that is very short sighted because as we can see that really doesn't make a big difference blacking out football and basketball games in my opinion with attendance at UB. Let's Go Buffalo

What makes you think that UB does not want to upgrade facilities now?  There are currently two upgrades going on at UB Stadium.  A field house for athletics is on the drawing board and is awaiting enough private funding to be built.  A new tennis facility has also been worked on for on campus.  Most funding of UB comes from the state.  However, for the last 15+ years the amount of funding from the state has been dropping. http://www.buffalo.edu/ubreporter/archives/vol27/vol27n31/letters.html It started with the Pataki administration and continues to to this day.

The situation with funding from the state requires more and more fundraising from private sources.  As for that see my comments in response to you here: http://ubfan.com/board/index.php?topic=13358.msg152919#msg152919.  Do you put up or are you just a cheap typist?

As for local TV most home football games are already shown locally.  As for basketball many of the games are shown on TWCSN.  Buffalo has multiple local teams and no one school is able to dominate the market and have all their game shown.  Take a look at a fellow AAU member, Rutgers.  Not all Rutgers basketball games are available on tv, and they are in a major basketball conference.  You get the TV exposure that you can.

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[Some will say money but the money is there [sic]]

I don't think her marketing worked well at all. The new person needs to find a way to get people in the seats. That should be the only benchmark for success for marketing.

I don't know the person so I have no comment on her. But I am responding to your marketing response let's be fair who has put fans in the seats at UB? I think there is a problem but it isn't with any one person at UB in my opinion. It is just the UB program as a whole and how the university feels about upgrades to there facilities that I feel is lacking. Some will say money but the money is there [sic] if they really wanted to at UB in my opinion so those that say no money I disagree. UB as a university in my opinion doesn't see it as neccessary or a good investment take your pick in there minds of those in charge of such deccission at UB at this time like a Central Florida that is building or a UNC-Charlotte that is building or a SMU that is building or improving athletic facilities etc at this time which is unfortunate for a major university which UB is, if your [sic] a Buffalo Bulls fan and want UB athletics to grow bigger then it is now?

Local television lacks also I feel, I will explain in Buffalo yes we get some Time Warner Cable Sports Network games. For football there is national ESPN family of networks that get firsts on games etc I understand that. But I am speaking specifically for basketball because we share with three other local college basketball programs Canisius, Niagara and St. Bonaventure with Time Warner Sports Network to me that is a problem for growth in my opinion attendance wise at UB because the casual Buffalo sports fan isn't making any one Big 4 basketball program must see tv or must go to the game, it is like they don't really exist in my opinion out of sight out of mind in Buffalo.

All our Buffalo Bulls games home and away should be on local television if not picked up nationally in my opinion to grow the sport in Buffalo. What ever isn't being picked up nationally tv wise should be picked up either all on TWCSN 13 or if conflicts on local Buffalo PBS TV like UConn and CPTV. Buffalo I feel lags behind almost all other areas with tv coverage for a major university like UB is. I am not talking about ESPN3, MAC internet etc that super fans like myself watch. If you want the casual Buffalo fan and the older Buffalo fan that isn't all into finding games on the internet to know you even exist as a program all the games need to be on local tv in today's times in my opinion in Buffalo to get them hooked on watching and caring to start with weather UB wins or loses. I realize there will be many UB fans that will say like Buffalo Bills owner Ralph Wilson or the late Chicago Blackhawks owner Bill Wirtz no don't give the home game away for tv for free (even though it isn't really free because we pay for cable) without a sellout already but in today's times that is very short sighted because as we can see that really doesn't make a big difference blacking out football and basketball games in my opinion with attendance at UB. Let's Go Buffalo

What makes you think that UB does not want to upgrade facilities now?  There are currently two upgrades going on at UB Stadium.  A field house for athletics is on the drawing board and is awaiting enough private funding to be built.  A new tennis facility has also been worked on for on campus.  Most funding of UB comes from the state.  However, for the last 15+ years the amount of funding from the state has been dropping. http://www.buffalo.edu/ubreporter/archives/vol27/vol27n31/letters.html It started with the Pataki administration and continues to to this day.

The situation with funding from the state requires more and more fundraising from private sources.  As for that see my comments in response to you here: http://ubfan.com/board/index.php?topic=13358.msg152919#msg152919.  Do you put up or are you just a cheap typist?

As for local TV most home football games are already shown locally.  As for basketball many of the games are shown on TWCSN.  Buffalo has multiple local teams and no one school is able to dominate the market and have all their game shown.  Take a look at a fellow AAU member, Rutgers.  Not all Rutgers basketball games are available on tv, and they are in a major basketball conference.  You get the TV exposure that you can.

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Brooklynbull like I said in my post the football games are but the basketball games sharing time with the other three schools in my opinion hurts UB basketball as a whole of ever becoming like a Cincinnati or a Ohio State in basketball with the lack of tv of all there games home and away on local tv.

Now your quote "However, for the last 15+ years the amount of funding from the state has been dropping." Let me ask you take off your UB hat for a momment and I will take off my homer UB hat off. Which if you were looking at it from a non bias city/state prospective would be the better sports facility investment from the state point of view. A field house for UB which would do wonders for UB football or a new Stadium for Albany FCS? Before you answer I will say Albany for it's size is one of the worst sports cities in America having lost over a half a dozen teams like Albany-Colonie Yankees with Derek Jeter, Deion "Prime Time" Sanders and Bernie Williams as alums to name a few, CBA Basketball Albany Patroons (Twice) with the great Phil Jackson as coach and tons of CBA championships, IHL hockey Albany Choppers, AHL hockey Albany River Rats. AFL Arena Football Albany Firebirds (Twice), AF2 Arena Football Albany Conquest, WTT Team Tennis New York Buzz, AISA (NPSL) Indoor Soccer New York Kick, Northern League Independent League Baseball Albany Diamond Dogs, A-League Outdoor Soccer Albany Capitals, IBL Basketball Albany Legends there are more, that is just the Albany area noting even counting Glens Falls or before the 1990's. Your proablely thinking how does he know that off the top of his head because my brother in laws family is living in the Albany area formerly from Long Island and we both think Albany sports is a joke when you consider the size of there population. Look at any sports economic indicator if your a sports business person the reasons they keep getting teams is because if you look at it strictly at the numbers population and income you say I can make a go of it there. That is usually true with Albany, New York the exception to that sports business rule in my opinion yet were building them a new FCS football stadium why when it is clear the Albany area isn't a sports city?

Or a Buffalo practice facility forget the Buffalo is a major league city card which it is but let's put it aside for the time being. I can make a case just on Buffalo's minor league record history is a better choice then Albany. Buffalo Bisons over 127 years in Buffalo, drew 1 million fans six times, has most of the minor league baseball top ten spots for attendance in triple a baseball while Albany lost double a baseball and has single a team in Troy Tri-City Valley Cats that is successful but it is easier to support because it is short season single a New York Penn League with no April and May months to support which is tougher to support in the northeast that Albany failed at. My point that isn't changing in october and november in my opinion for FCS college football season for Albany.

Buffalo Bandits NLL Indoor Lacrosse 21 seasons and counting in Buffalo over 15,000 the past several seasons with a 9,000 season ticket base. Buffalo before they got the Buffalo Sabres drew for years from 1940-1970 at the old AUD for the AHL Buffalo Hockey Bisons. College Albany Great Danes draws what like 3,000 plus for FCS football. I will be fair and reasonable forget UB with FBS football attendancce that wouldn't be fair let's look at UB for our years in FCS it was still double of Albany's. I rest my case which would you choose if given the choice of a better sports money ecomonic investment UB on ESPN family of networks more like 2008 because we would most likely be good with a field house or a new FCS football stadium for Albany that is to be kind luke warm about sports locally in the Albany area? That is why I am saying Buffalo should get that money for it's field house for the good of the state in my opinion over Albany's new football stadium. UB would be on tv more and more Buffalo fans would be interested over a Albany because Buffalo loves sports compared to a Albany in my opinion and attendance numbers indicate that which reflexs real dollars which reflexs a better economic investment between the two projects Buffalo should get that money in my opinion for there field house it is just dollars and sense to me. Buffalo is the better choice and I don't even have to be a Buffalo homer to realize that in my opinion. The only area Albany wins is there studium is a dump but even that Buffalo wins. Buffalo supported baseball and football at the Rockpile old War Memorial Stadium, I know I was there time stood still in that stadium in my opinion, yet Buffalo still went to games because our Buffalo area liked the sports teams and didn't make excuses like Albany with there stadium is a dump in my opinion. Buffalo supported two baseball teams going back to 1914 and 1915 with the Buffalo Bisons Eastern League now IL and the Buffalo Blues of the old Federal League the two stadiums that were made out of wood with tickets in the bleachers going for 10 cents but that is another story for another day. Why Buffalo is taking a back seat on the field house is beyond what I can really understand I guess it seems like a no brainer to me. Let's Go Buffalo

SUNY and the state don't allocate funds based on market analysis, so the majority of your post is moot. The state gives money to all the SUNY's. Budget allocations for facilities comes down to current facility condition analysis and lobbying. In the last decade Cortland got an awesome D-3 football facility. Oswego St and SUNY Canton got nice hockey arenas. Binghamton got an arena and soccer field. Stony Brook got millions in state funding unfrozen to reno their BB arena. Buff St wants to build a new stadium, too. Yes, having lived in the Albany market a well, I've seen how poor the sports market is. But that means zero to SUNY facility funding.
 
Albany sat on plans for their stadium for nearly a decade AND decreased the size of their plan from over $60 mil, to $36 Mil, until it was finally approved for state funding in the low 20's. It was never a case of Albany gets the funding while UB is shafted for state $ for the fieldhouse. UB under Warde decided it was easier to go the full private route for the fieldhouse, while at the same time allocating several millions in state critical maintance funds (in addition to private) to upgrade AA, stadium lighting, the AA roof, etc. So follow BB's advise and keep investing in the programs as you choose or talk to the AD staff about your feelings, because they are the ones charting the course for the fieldhouse, not the state/SUNY.  

SUNY and the state don't allocate funds based on market analysis, so the majority of your post is moot. The state gives money to all the SUNY's. Budget allocations for facilities comes down to current facility condition analysis and lobbying. In the last decade Cortland got an awesome D-3 football facility. Oswego St and SUNY Canton got nice hockey arenas. Binghamton got an arena and soccer field. Stony Brook got millions in state funding unfrozen to reno their BB arena. Buff St wants to build a new stadium, too. Yes, having lived in the Albany market a well, I've seen how poor the sports market is. But that means zero to SUNY facility funding.
 
Albany sat on plans for their stadium for nearly a decade AND decreased the size of their plan from over $60 mil, to $36 Mil, until it was finally approved for state funding in the low 20's. It was never a case of Albany gets the funding while UB is shafted for state $ for the fieldhouse. UB under Warde decided it was easier to go the full private route for the fieldhouse, while at the same time allocating several millions in state critical maintance funds (in addition to private) to upgrade AA, stadium lighting, the AA roof, etc. So follow BB's advise and keep investing in the programs as you choose or talk to the AD staff about your feelings, because they are the ones charting the course for the fieldhouse, not the state/SUNY.  

The point may be moot to you but my point is a valid one and one of the reasons why UB is so far behind the rest of the FBS programs. Should our state make that large of investment in Division 3 and FCS programs? Do they do that in Texas or New Jersey funding everyone the same I doubt it but if they do why are they so ahead and where so far behind for a state our size? See I get what your saying but since that is the case what is UB doing as program in FBS if were going to get funding like Division 3 and FCS programs from SUNY/State? I get private money but I think it is very unrealistic to think everything at UB athletics wise is going to be build privately in the future. Why not just buy a professional or minor league sports team then if said person is willing to spend or give that much? See this is exactly why UB will never replace the Buffalo Bills it just isn't realistic the way SUNY/New York State funds athletics program to ever grow beyond what we are in my opinion. I am not the problem or my post that questions what are we doing at UB athletically and neither is talking to the UB AD who also isn't the problem. See the truth of what is really lacking is SUNY/State funding for UB athletic facilities and it isn't because of the Buffalo Bills in my opinion.

That just isn't how big state programs got started to get to the point there at today in my opinion. If SUNY/State cared about athletics at UB they would have stepped in with support in 1970 of a underfunded Buffalo Bulls football program when UB was in the SUNY/State system that was the time to do it in my opinion. Some where along the line in my opinion those programs like Rutgers got huge state funding for athletics which UB doesn't see in that great of number in my opinion. So again the question is what is the point? I think UB is at the point where you either do it right which means yes SUNY/State needs to pick two of the favorites for funding athletics and give more athletic funding to those two schools. If is Buffalo so be it great for us Buffalo Bulls fans if it isn't we drop to Division 3 and be done with it in my opinion. But atleast make a decission and do FBS athletics right or were just what we are a under funded faciliticies wise FBS program hoping for enough private money that may or may not come in? But yours and other Buffalo Bulls fans point that the Buffalo Bills leaving Buffalo could help UB is very ify at best because of the way SUNY/State privides athletics funding in my opinion that is my point.

UB is most likely always going to be behind in athletics facilities with a SUNY/State system this way and that does affect the win loss record in my opinion. Is that fair for the UB athletes/coaches presently in the UB program or fair to the UB fans that support UB programs? See some where along the line I think we need to really ask that question what are we doing at UB athletically wrong funding wise to suck this badly year in and year out and fix it or move on and forget it in my opinion that is the point. And the Albany point is valid it is a waste of money in my opinion for that large of a stadium for 3.000 fans that show up Demske Complex set up like Canisius would be wiser money for SUNY Albany or just drop football at Albany for lack of facilities and support an even better decission for Albany football in my opinion. I only see two SUNY programs with any realistic hope of being bigtime FBS where most of the athletic money should go if done right, Buffalo and Stony Brook and that is the truth and you know it in my opinion. I don't need to speak to the UB AD for the truth in my opinion. Let's Go Buffalo

NYS is actually not that different from Texas and Florida. Texas and Florida have a boatload of public D-1 programs alone, and they all get nice funding for AD facilities. See what UNT, Texas St, Houston, UCF, FIU, FAU have built or are planning, even as non-flagship schools.

UB is the 'richest' and best-funded in NYS and among MAC members. We have the largest endowment, and UB, UCF, UAB, and UMass are the only non-BCS schools with $1B+ operating budgets. We have around $1 Bil in projects in-line. Compare that to Akron who was so proud when they had $150 Mil in campus-wide investments a few years ago. Our AD budget is always in the top 3 in the MAC. Gill was the 3rd best-compensated coach in the conference when here, after Golden and Solich. Money is not a major issue today as it was our first few years after we jumped in '99. The ineptitude in running an FBS program by Hofher and the AD pre-Warde are what hindered our progress.

You seem to have missed my points on UB's choices. UB COULD have directed critical maintenance funding for parts of the fieldhouse project, to close the current private-funding gap. They've chosen not to so far. They spent millions in private and public maintainance funds to structural and entertainment upgrades to AA for multiple sports instead. Ohio and NIU are also going the private route for their planned fieldhouses, so it shouldn't surprise that we are, too.

You seem to have missed my points on UB's choices.

He didn't miss your point, It just didn't fit in with his opinion.  BSF is not coming from the land of facts, it's all just his opinion.

The point may be moot to you but my point is a valid one and one of the reasons why UB is so far behind the rest of the FBS programs. Should our state make that large of investment in Division 3 and FCS programs? Do they do that in Texas or New Jersey funding everyone the same I doubt it but if they do why are they so ahead and where so far behind for a state our size? See I get what your saying but since that is the case what is UB doing as program in FBS if were going to get funding like Division 3 and FCS programs from SUNY/State? I get private money but I think it is very unrealistic to think everything at UB athletics wise is going to be build privately in the future. Why not just buy a professional or minor league sports team then if said person is willing to spend or give that much? See this is exactly why UB will never replace the Buffalo Bills it just isn't realistic the way SUNY/New York State funds athletics program to ever grow beyond what we are in my opinion. I am not the problem or my post that questions what are we doing at UB athletically and neither is talking to the UB AD who also isn't the problem. See the truth of what is really lacking is SUNY/State funding for UB athletic facilities and it isn't because of the Buffalo Bills in my opinion.

That just isn't how big state programs got started to get to the point there at today in my opinion. If SUNY/State cared about athletics at UB they would have stepped in with support in 1970 of a underfunded Buffalo Bulls football program when UB was in the SUNY/State system that was the time to do it in my opinion. Some where along the line in my opinion those programs like Rutgers got huge state funding for athletics which UB doesn't see in that great of number in my opinion. So again the question is what is the point? I think UB is at the point where you either do it right which means yes SUNY/State needs to pick two of the favorites for funding athletics and give more athletic funding to those two schools. If is Buffalo so be it great for us Buffalo Bulls fans if it isn't we drop to Division 3 and be done with it in my opinion. But atleast make a decission and do FBS athletics right or were just what we are a under funded faciliticies wise FBS program hoping for enough private money that may or may not come in? But yours and other Buffalo Bulls fans point that the Buffalo Bills leaving Buffalo could help UB is very ify at best because of the way SUNY/State privides athletics funding in my opinion that is my point.

UB is most likely always going to be behind in athletics facilities with a SUNY/State system this way and that does affect the win loss record in my opinion. Is that fair for the UB athletes/coaches presently in the UB program or fair to the UB fans that support UB programs? See some where along the line I think we need to really ask that question what are we doing at UB athletically wrong funding wise to suck this badly year in and year out and fix it or move on and forget it in my opinion that is the point. And the Albany point is valid it is a waste of money in my opinion for that large of a stadium for 3.000 fans that show up Demske Complex set up like Canisius would be wiser money for SUNY Albany or just drop football at Albany for lack of facilities and support an even better decission for Albany football in my opinion. I only see two SUNY programs with any realistic hope of being bigtime FBS where most of the athletic money should go if done right, Buffalo and Stony Brook and that is the truth and you know it in my opinion. I don't need to speak to the UB AD for the truth in my opinion. Let's Go Buffalo

When you talk about where SUNY and New York State are in connection with athletics you have to learn your history.  SUNY did not allow public funds for scholarships until recently, if at all.  That is why UB was running a Division I program in the 1970s with a Division III budget and no scholarships.  Athletics was fully funded in the 1970s by student fees.  Football was not dropped because of state funding issues.  It was dropped after a vote by the student body to defund football.  The UB administration had no say, nor a place to replace the funding money to continue the program.  In fact UB lost a lot of money when they dropped football in 1970.  The 1971 season had three games scheduled to be on ABC regional television.

During the 1976 - 1977 a decision was made to drop athletics from Division I to Division III.  That was because UB did not have the funds to compete as a Division I program and was not able to attract Division I caliber athletes without scholarships to give out.  That was when football was brought back on a Division III level.  The entire athletic budget in the late 1970s was $250,000.  There was not much that could have been done with that money.

With some changes in Albany and a lot of hard work at UB, UB was able to move back up to Division I.  It was done with lots of private funding.  There was no plan to go to Division I-A.  It was to go to Division I-AA.  However, when the MAC invitation came it was too good to turn down for both prestige and money saving.

As for other facilities in SUNY system look behind the scenes as to how things were built.  How much of what happened at Cortland is because of the Jets?  Albany got taken to the cleaners by the Giants.  As for Stony Brook all you need to know is the name on their football stadium and who Kenneth LaValle is and that will explain the Stony Brook funding.

Big state programs around the country started at the Division I level decades ago.  They are that big because they never had professional sports competition.  Remember that the there were no major league sports in the South until the Braves and Dolphins showed up in the second half of the 1960s.  There was nothing out West until the 1950s.  So these schools were all the people had.  It became what the people lived and died for.  In the Northeast it was pro sports.  Also remember that there was no true Division I program in the SUNY system until UB in the 1990s.  The only reason that Albany, Binghamton and Stony Brook are Division I today is because UB showed New York State that it was possible to run a Division I program within SUNY constraints.

As for New Jersey and its funding at Rutgers, at least UB is not taking the heat that Rutgers athletics is taking.  Because of its spending on football Rutgers has been forced to cut other sports and it has impacted academics where there have also been cuts.  UB has not had those problems either, which have also been problems at  some other big Division I schools where academics have suffered because of athletics.  UB does not have those problems because of its athletic funding.

You also said that you are not part of the problem, but are you part of the solution financially?  You have never answered that simple question, when previously posed twice.  That question ended at least one (if not both) of the threads it was on.  As I said the first time if you are part of the solution already, wonderful.  If not become part of the solution or stop complaining about funding for athletics.

The point may be moot to you but my point is a valid one and one of the reasons why UB is so far behind the rest of the FBS programs. Should our state make that large of investment in Division 3 and FCS programs? Do they do that in Texas or New Jersey funding everyone the same I doubt it but if they do why are they so ahead and where so far behind for a state our size? See I get what your saying but since that is the case what is UB doing as program in FBS if were going to get funding like Division 3 and FCS programs from SUNY/State? I get private money but I think it is very unrealistic to think everything at UB athletics wise is going to be build privately in the future. Why not just buy a professional or minor league sports team then if said person is willing to spend or give that much? See this is exactly why UB will never replace the Buffalo Bills it just isn't realistic the way SUNY/New York State funds athletics program to ever grow beyond what we are in my opinion. I am not the problem or my post that questions what are we doing at UB athletically and neither is talking to the UB AD who also isn't the problem. See the truth of what is really lacking is SUNY/State funding for UB athletic facilities and it isn't because of the Buffalo Bills in my opinion.

That just isn't how big state programs got started to get to the point there at today in my opinion. If SUNY/State cared about athletics at UB they would have stepped in with support in 1970 of a underfunded Buffalo Bulls football program when UB was in the SUNY/State system that was the time to do it in my opinion. Some where along the line in my opinion those programs like Rutgers got huge state funding for athletics which UB doesn't see in that great of number in my opinion. So again the question is what is the point? I think UB is at the point where you either do it right which means yes SUNY/State needs to pick two of the favorites for funding athletics and give more athletic funding to those two schools. If is Buffalo so be it great for us Buffalo Bulls fans if it isn't we drop to Division 3 and be done with it in my opinion. But atleast make a decission and do FBS athletics right or were just what we are a under funded faciliticies wise FBS program hoping for enough private money that may or may not come in? But yours and other Buffalo Bulls fans point that the Buffalo Bills leaving Buffalo could help UB is very ify at best because of the way SUNY/State privides athletics funding in my opinion that is my point.

UB is most likely always going to be behind in athletics facilities with a SUNY/State system this way and that does affect the win loss record in my opinion. Is that fair for the UB athletes/coaches presently in the UB program or fair to the UB fans that support UB programs? See some where along the line I think we need to really ask that question what are we doing at UB athletically wrong funding wise to suck this badly year in and year out and fix it or move on and forget it in my opinion that is the point. And the Albany point is valid it is a waste of money in my opinion for that large of a stadium for 3.000 fans that show up Demske Complex set up like Canisius would be wiser money for SUNY Albany or just drop football at Albany for lack of facilities and support an even better decission for Albany football in my opinion. I only see two SUNY programs with any realistic hope of being bigtime FBS where most of the athletic money should go if done right, Buffalo and Stony Brook and that is the truth and you know it in my opinion. I don't need to speak to the UB AD for the truth in my opinion. Let's Go Buffalo

When you talk about where SUNY and New York State are in connection with athletics you have to learn your history.  SUNY did not allow public funds for scholarships until recently, if at all.  That is why UB was running a Division I program in the 1970s with a Division III budget and no scholarships.  Athletics was fully funded in the 1970s by student fees.  Football was not dropped because of state funding issues.  It was dropped after a vote by the student body to defund football.  The UB administration had no say, nor a place to replace the funding money to continue the program.  In fact UB lost a lot of money when they dropped football in 1970.  The 1971 season had three games scheduled to be on ABC regional television.

During the 1976 - 1977 a decision was made to drop athletics from Division I to Division III.  That was because UB did not have the funds to compete as a Division I program and was not able to attract Division I caliber athletes without scholarships to give out.  That was when football was brought back on a Division III level.  The entire athletic budget in the late 1970s was $250,000.  There was not much that could have been done with that money.

With some changes in Albany and a lot of hard work at UB, UB was able to move back up to Division I.  It was done with lots of private funding.  There was no plan to go to Division I-A.  It was to go to Division I-AA.  However, when the MAC invitation came it was too good to turn down for both prestige and money saving.

As for other facilities in SUNY system look behind the scenes as to how things were built.  How much of what happened at Cortland is because of the Jets?  Albany got taken to the cleaners by the Giants.  As for Stony Brook all you need to know is the name on their football stadium and who Kenneth LaValle is and that will explain the Stony Brook funding.

Big state programs around the country started at the Division I level decades ago.  They are that big because they never had professional sports competition.  Remember that the there were no major league sports in the South until the Braves and Dolphins showed up in the second half of the 1960s.  There was nothing out West until the 1950s.  So these schools were all the people had.  It became what the people lived and died for.  In the Northeast it was pro sports.  Also remember that there was no true Division I program in the SUNY system until UB in the 1990s.  The only reason that Albany, Binghamton and Stony Brook are Division I today is because UB showed New York State that it was possible to run a Division I program within SUNY constraints.

As for New Jersey and its funding at Rutgers, at least UB is not taking the heat that Rutgers athletics is taking.  Because of its spending on football Rutgers has been forced to cut other sports and it has impacted academics where there have also been cuts.  UB has not had those problems either, which have also been problems at  some other big Division I schools where academics have suffered because of athletics.  UB does not have those problems because of its athletic funding.

You also said that you are not part of the problem, but are you part of the solution financially?  You have never answered that simple question, when previously posed twice.  That question ended at least one (if not both) of the threads it was on.  As I said the first time if you are part of the solution already, wonderful.  If not become part of the solution or stop complaining about funding for athletics.

First of all I never answered your question about money because I thought it was embarrassing one for a person from Brooklyn questioning a Buffalonians support to almost insulting really who is a person from Brooklyn to question a person that lives in Buffalo about supporting Buffalo teams and two I thought it was understood with my posts about merchandise like hats, jerseys, jackets, sweatshirts, t-shirts (I wear Bulls socks on my feet daily), tickets, etc I give alot to UB. I give more to UB then my own school Canisius I went to because in my opinion Canisius downgraded to a high school gym over First Niagara Center and I didn't agree with that as a basketball program but I still support Canisius basketball but not the school because of that short sighted decission by former Canisius President Father Cooke. It split Canisius basketball fans and still does in my opinion. I will always back Canisius Basketball because of my memories of the old AUD when Canisius was bigtime in Buffalo on a saturday night. See as a alum of Canisius and a Buffalonian I tell it like it is but if one questions UB athletics and losing that is a little different why? If Buffalo fans like I tell it like it is for Canisius basketball why is it different for UB football? I am not talking a little money maybe for some but for me it is alot. I will guess it is more then many that have attended UB in the past. Questioning fans with money giving and equating it with UB fandom is embarrassing in my opinion. I go back to Jim Ward days with UB attendance wise as an adult. The first experience with UB football came as a kid on radio with Clip Smith doing UB Bulls Division 3 games like the huge win over Villanova than a huge upset because they where I-AA I believe then, I remember listening to that game and all the talk about Division I. But the thought was back then like Ivy League level not MAC FBS that is why I bring up would IVY League be better fit for UB football?

If I didn't give money or care would I be on a UB board with a football program that makes the Bad News Bears look like the New York Yankees. Think about that for a minute. Start questioning why as a UB sports fan do I accept well we always do things this way or well you don't understand BSF. You know what I understand UB has tarps on one of there stadium endzones with tons of unsold seats in the other endzone at $42 dollars for a season tickets. For UB alums with far more brains then I have I never hid the fact I wasn't smart enough to attend UB, I got into Canisus but for so many to not question maybe just maybe the Buffalo community is more of the opinion of Buffalo Super Fan is very surprising I have found over the years reading this message board. Is it really all on the community of Buffalo or is that Buffalonians are telling UB we don't like what UB is putting out on the field do something about it other then giving UB coaches like Reggie Witherspoon forever long contracts for being average like a Lindy Ruff of the Buffalo Sabres that most Buffalonian feel should have been fired for being just average. UB keeps Jeff Quinn for two more years no matter what why, if UB has all this SUNY/State money? Fire him at the end of the year if he has another losing season if that is the case.

UB has not enough funding for facilities in a state so far behind the times in atletics that is giving to D3 programs like FBS programs because everything has to be PC and fair in my opinion. Well UB is paying the price for that in athletics yet let's make it about a UB poster and how much money he or she gives instead of realiziing the UB fan is here obviously he or she cares and gives. Start looking at the SUNY/State because that is the problem in my opinion. Where is the governor trying to advance UB in athletics when the Big East was expanding I didn't see or hear one word from him at all. Where is the govornor and the state with the Buffalo Bills lease, the UB field house etc? Yet the state has the money for SUNY Albany football stadium the next white elephant in my opinion. You and I will never agree much because one I question things more and two your from down state New York City and your area gets things more then Buffalo so in my opinion you don't question as much for Buffalo because at the end of the day outside of being an alum of UB you don't really care. If you cared about Buffalo you would question SUNY Albany football stadium yet nothing on the Buffalo Bills lease or the Buffalo Bulls fieldhouse or advancing UB athletically in a higher conference like Big East. And again I get that New York City should come first economically but when Buffalo comes behind SUNY Albany football stadium you can figure it out, I will question that as a Buffalonian.

If you can't see where I am coming from as a Buffalonian UB fieldhouse playing second to SUNY Albany Stadium, I don't know what to really say but you don't get it, I think you would have to be born and raise in WNY area to really get it in my opinion of where I am coming from in this part of the state of New York and the mind set of questioning things and not taking things as oh well they are what they are let's all pretend everything is fine and smile good for SUNY Albany even through sports economics wise I posted and show that Albany is a horrible city of supporting sports of there own other then the Saratoga Race Track is the only exception to the rule and Buffalo with the southern Ontario market in it's backyard is the better choice for things like sports fundng over Albany in my opinion. Buffalo smiled like you for 40 years saying oh well maybe next year and next year was more of 40 years. As a person from New York City like you are I think you have to grow up in the WNY, community actually living and seeing and experience loss of jobs and business and sports teams Buffalo Braves NBA to understand what went on for over 40 years to really understand someone like mine or many WNYers point of view. And that is no fault of yours but try understanding where a Buffalonians that has experience great economic loss is coming from over the years and I think if you grew up in that mind set in a community like Buffalo you would see my point of view clear Brooklynbull. My mother is from New York City/Brooklyn met my dad at the Worlds Fair in NYC my dad was from Buffalo, so I realize the economic differences from visiting NYC and get it but I don't put myself in a New York City persons shoes because it is different living and mind set completely from a WNY in my opinion and I never was born and raised there. To a Buffalonian Albany is just a bedroom community of New York City same basically mind set but different then a WNY mind set in my opinion weather that is right or wrong I am telling you that is how most feel in WNY. Buffalo and Rochester are basically the same give or take some differences but same mind set basically. After that you have Syracuse with there own mind set some New York City some WNY. Albany more are like New York City mindset I have found that to be the case in my opinion.

Lastly Brooklynbull if many UB fans haven't figured out I don't care about the way SUNY does things leave SUNY then for all I care as a Buffalonian, UB was fine as a private school, so UB alums telling me about SUNY this and SUNY that have this book of rules who cares about SUNY, I am embarrassed to have SUNY even in the UB name. Haven't you or any UB fan figured that out with my post I use Buffalo Bulls or UB but never SUNY Buffalo alot like Miami Hurricanes. I see UB/Buffalo to good for SUNY get it that is where I am coming from get rid of the at and go back to University of Buffalo in my opinion. I don't care about other SUNY schools all the funds should go to the U Buffalo period the only real flag ship school of New York State in my opinion. That is another problem to add in my opinion UB doesn't have enough swagger. We are the U period of New York State. Bottom line weather it is Big East, MAC or IVY League let Buffalo chart it's own course of destiny away from other SUNY schools because we are better in my opinion endowment money wise to begin with when UB joined SUNY as a private school then Albany and Stony Brook and should get more funding then the others. With some UB fans logic let's build SUNY Binghamton a football stadium too that is the fair and right thing to do. Or worse give Buffalo State $40 million dollar fantasy they want for D3 football stadium it is bad investment for the state and a waste of money in my opinion so this isn't oh BSF is a Buffalo homer I am but I also use economic value and sense to my point of view, so I think Buffalo State is in fantasyland in my opinioin with UB in it's backyard. Even though I will say this I would bet Buffalo State would support football better then the Albany region that is how I feel about Albany sports it is a bad investment in my opinion to give SUNY Albany a football stadium they should get a Demske Complex type football field like Canisius has for Albany on a Patriot League level. Go Bulls! Let's Go Buffalo