Chet Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 Per Jon Rothstein, SMU is closing in on hiring Georgia State's Rob Lanier as its next head basketball coach. Incredible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, Chet said: Per Jon Rothstein, SMU is closing in on hiring Georgia State's Rob Lanier as its next head basketball coach. Incredible! I guess if he came here and took us to the tournament we would be back in the same spot. I guess we should get a booster base that can pony up $500k-$1 million for coach to be named. Just get the next rising coach, keep them 2-3 years then bring in the next. Hopefully we can recruit players that are cool with temporary coaches. Seems like a lot of MAC coaches hang around a while even if they don’t win anything. Others like Ohio, etc are taking the leap knowing they will lose the guy, probably next year in that case. It puts a huge burden on the AD, but I think that may be the only way to sustain at the mid-major level. Ala Hurley and Oats, you almost need to stock you assistant coaches with the “next one” if you can harness that, but it’s a major commitment from some mastermind. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGBull Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 The life of a mid major…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 Ask yourself this question: are you happy if after 3 years you get a Mac title/tournament appearance and lose your coach or 3+ years of being what we are now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
121Merrimac Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, DooleyBull06 said: Ask yourself … are you happy if … 4 out of 5 woulda been so nice. Edit: I’ll bet that eleven teams in the conference would like to be able to claim 3 of 7. Edited March 26, 2022 by 121Merrimac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 24 minutes ago, 121Merrimac said: 4 out of 5 woulda been so nice. Edit: I’ll bet that eleven teams in the conference would like to be able to claim 3 of 7. Or just 1…Toledo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 (edited) I give credit to Lanier and his team for winning when it counted. There must be more to Lanier than his won loss record. His win percent in conference was decent at .630 vs .685 for preceding three years under Ron Hunter. Here is a real question, can someone provide other evidence supporting Lanier would have had us to NCAA at least once in past three years. I want to understand what people are seeing x and o wise from Lanier that they feel would have guaranteed a trip to NCAA in 3 years if he had been our coach. This is not a defense of Whitesell, I am trying to get a better understanding beyond the numbers. Edited March 26, 2022 by DocCas86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted March 26, 2022 Author Share Posted March 26, 2022 (edited) SMU is not a major program, but they probably doubled his salary to about $1mm and he's gone. It's the reality of mid majors with coaches cashing in. I absolutely dispise it all, but it's the reality. You get what you pay for in most cases and we are getting what we are paying for with Coach Whitesell. Mark Alnutt and his team needs to make fundraising and sponsorship their priority. Why haven't naming rights been sold to Alumni and UB stadium? Would love to know fundraising dollars for our athletics program compared to others (especially the MAC). Edited March 26, 2022 by Chet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Chet said: SMU is not a major program, but they probably doubled his salary to about $1mm and he's gone. It's the reality of mid majors with coaches cashing in. I absolutely dispise it all, but it's the reality. You get what you pay for in most cases and we are getting what we are paying for with Coach Whitesell. Mark Alnutt and his team needs to make fundraising and sponsorship their priority. Why haven't naming rights been sold to Alumni and UB stadium? Would love to know fundraising dollars for our athletics program compared to others (especially the MAC). They have been available for years. No one has stepped up to pay what they are looking to get for the naming rights. Want to put your name on something: http://bullsbwf.com/facility-naming-opportunities-2/ One other point on the money needed for anything. If you donate, thank you and you are part of the solution. If you do not donate and complain about a lack of money for anything in Athletics or any other part of UB you have two things to do. The first is look in the mirror, then either write a check or stop complaining. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 49 minutes ago, BrooklynBull said: They have been available for years. No one has stepped up to pay what they are looking to get for the naming rights. Want to put your name on something: http://bullsbwf.com/facility-naming-opportunities-2/ One other point on the money needed for anything. If you donate, thank you and you are part of the solution. If you do not donate and complain about a lack of money for anything in Athletics or any other part of UB you have two things to do. The first is look in the mirror, then either write a check or stop complaining. I have already earmarked a portion of any future lottery winnings (assuming I hit for $50 million+) to UB Athletics, so I'm doing my part! 🤘🏼🤘🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ub2019 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 1 hour ago, BrooklynBull said: They have been available for years. No one has stepped up to pay what they are looking to get for the naming rights. Want to put your name on something: http://bullsbwf.com/facility-naming-opportunities-2/ One other point on the money needed for anything. If you donate, thank you and you are part of the solution. If you do not donate and complain about a lack of money for anything in Athletics or any other part of UB you have two things to do. The first is look in the mirror, then either write a check or stop complaining. Is UB proactively reaching out to large companies/ corporations to try and strike a naming rights deal? Or are they waiting for alumni to make a large donation to name a facility after themselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 Just now, ub2019 said: Is UB proactively reaching out to large companies/ corporations to try and strike a naming rights deal? Or are they waiting for alumni to make a large donation to name a facility after themselves? To my knowledge, both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 Was the right hire at the time for UB and recommended to the team per my info inside the Tennessee program 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ub2019 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Kevin said: Was the right hire at the time for UB and recommended to the team per my info inside the Tennessee program So did Alnutt not offer Lanier a high enough salary? Did Alnutt choose Whitesell over Lanier? Did Lanier choose Georgia St over UB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 Maybe we can get Penny Hardaway. His violations don’t sound any worse than Sean Miller, so they can just reshuffle the deck and find a new landing spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big 4 Hoops Blogger Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 6 hours ago, Kevin said: Was the right hire at the time for UB and recommended to the team per my info inside the Tennessee program Was told similar things around that time before he took the job at Georgia State. Big reason why I was shocked when UB ended up hiring Jim Whitesell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocChiTown Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 On 3/26/2022 at 8:23 AM, Chet said: SMU is not a major program, but they probably doubled his salary to about $1mm and he's gone. It's the reality of mid majors with coaches cashing in. I absolutely dispise it all, but it's the reality. You get what you pay for in most cases and we are getting what we are paying for with Coach Whitesell. Mark Alnutt and his team needs to make fundraising and sponsorship their priority. Why haven't naming rights been sold to Alumni and UB stadium? Would love to know fundraising dollars for our athletics program compared to others (especially the MAC). I'm not sure how I'd categorize SMU Hoops. They are not a top-tier program, but they really aren't a mid major either. There's no reason why SMU can't be a great hoops program. Dallas is one of the best and fastest-growing hoops recruiting areas in the country. Add in the fact they have a nice arena and great practice facility, and you could see why they have the ability to be better than they have been in the past. SMU spends more on hoops than Rutgers, Seton Hall, Dayton, Xavier, Georgia Tech and Oklahoma State to name a few. I have to imagine SMU will be amongst those invited to the Big 12 should they expand again 5-10 years down the road. They have all the intangibles you want in a program, but for whatever reason the results haven't been there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBulls99 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Fired after just 2 years at SMU. Won 10 games last year and 20 this year. Lost to Indiana State in first round of NIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird96 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 19 minutes ago, DaBulls99 said: Fired after just 2 years at SMU. Won 10 games last year and 20 this year. Lost to Indiana State in first round of NIT. Seems odd to be dumped after doubling your wins in year 2 with a program. Maybe there’s more to the story? Or are their standards so high at SMU that they expect a coach to take them to the NCAAs and win a game in his 2nd year at the helm, when they haven’t been to the Dance since 2016-17. So much for having a little patience, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 He was fired? That's kinda wild to me Something must be a foot Maybe moving up in conference is the real reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 6 hours ago, Tee4three said: He was fired? That's kinda wild to me Something must be a foot Maybe moving up in conference is the real reason That would be my guess. Moving up a conference, they figure they get can “someone better”. 20 wins used to be a gold standard, but with as many games as they play now, that’s barely over .500. I assume he will get another shot somewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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