Kevin

5 Days? That has to break the record.

32 minutes ago, DocCas86 said:

Likes prospect of trips to Grand Canyon over Niagara Falls?  I confess I don't understand this decision, but I guess he has his reasons.

Playing time with Segu in front of the PG depth chart. 

Grim outlook here. They need more time though. 

14 minutes ago, RoughToughBulls15 said:

And there it is, probably good for both parties. Wish him the best

Good for both sides for sure. 

2 hours ago, trueblue32 said:

No they don't

https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/division-i-council-extends-eligibility-student-athletes-impacted-covid-19

 

 

That's sticky now because what players count as seniors? Does Brewton? I'm sure thats another layer of fun to be debated with the NCAA board. 

How about players that will exercise their extra year like Segu/Mballa/Williams (JRs)? The 2021 seniors count this year, but anyone who isn't a senior that wants that eligibility it will count for the following year.

Knowing UB's budget and ideals, I bet they'll use it like 13 players, rather than 15+with a few on exemption. 

11 minutes ago, Tee4three said:

Do we know for certain that if seniors come back they count against the scholarship limit?

They would. 13 scholarships per team. I would expect teams to know if they are expecting these players back or not. 

10 minutes ago, RoughToughBulls15 said:

I mean wouldnt we all like a former 4 star. No chance though right? Looks like we weren't even recruiting him last year.

I'm trying to be positive here 

Yes please. No questions asked:

1 minute ago, RoughToughBulls15 said:

I think this list more or less shows what they will do with the returning players.

With only 2 2021 guys that would imply two of  Brewton, Nickelberry, Brock, and Fagan are likely coming back and then they will use 2 more scholarships on these guys. Then that would fill out the roster

I think its safe to assume that Brewton and/or Nickelberry will be back. 

Updated 2021 Season:

• Kuluel Mading (2021) - Signed with Buffalo - Three Star -  - 38th PF
• Zaakir Williamson (2021) - Signed with Buffalo - Three Star - 38th C
• Curtis Jones (JUCO 2021) - Signed with Buffalo - JUCO (no rankings in 2021)
• Kidtrell Blocker (2021) - Signed with Buffalo - Three Star - 77th SG
• Yazid Powell (JUCO 2022)  - Signed with Buffalo - JUCO 37th Overall
• Kanye Jones (2022) - Signed with BC 2021, Signed with Buffalo - from BC (Unranked)
• Davonte Gaines (2021) Signed with George Mason
• Jalen Cone (2021) - Signed with NAU
• Victor Hart (2021) - Signed with FIU 
• Abdoulaye Thiam (2021) - Signed with MIN
• Aaron Estrada (2021) - Signed with Hofstra
• Alec Oglesby (2021) - Signed with UNCW
• John Orogon (2021)
• Julian Agusto (2021)
• Brian Waddell (2021) - Signed with Purdue
• Willie Lightfoot Jr. (2022)
• Jalen Bradberry (2022)
• Jai Smith (2022)
• Damani Barley (2022)
• Trey Knight (2022)
• GG Jackson (2023)
• William Lobor (2023)

Updated 2022 Season (from poster below):

Updated offer list:

• Yazid Powell 6’4 175 JuCo Soph PG - Committed
  • 13.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.4 apg, 51/32/65%
  • Other offers: FGCU, Marist, Pacific, Wichita St, Sam Houston St, Canisius, IUPUI, Drexel, Northern Illinois
• Jacob Tracey 6’4 200 JuCo Soph SG
  • 8.2 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 3.6 apg, 48/31/60%
  • Other offers: Akron, Illinois St, Fresno St, East Carolina, Bryant, Nevada
• Brian Moore 6’3 170 JuCo Fr PG
  • 18.4 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 2.8 apg, 59/37/76%
  • Other offers: Cleveland St, Stony Brook, Tulsa, Texas St, FGCU, Stetson, Illinois St, Southern Illinois, Bowling Green, Iona, Wichita St, DePaul, Towson, Jacksonville St, Mercer, Stephen F Austin, Marist, SIUE, Kent State, NC A&T, New Orlenas, UMBC, Robert Morris, UIC, St. Bona
• Bryant Selebangue 6’9 215 JuCo Fr PF
  • 12.8 ppg, 10.1 rpg, 70/61%
  • Other offers: CSU Bakersfield, North Texas, Bryant, Bradley, Northern Illinois
• Jalen Bradberry 6’3 160 HS Sr PG
  • Other offers: Hofstra, St. John's, UMass, Youngstown St, Siena, Bryant, Stony Brook

• Zaiden Cross 6’7 HS Sr SG
  • Other offers: Florida
• Amarri Trice 6’7 215 HS Sr SF
  • Other offers: Drexel, East Carolina, Fairfield, Iona, Siena, UMBC, UMass, UNCW, Albany
• Jalen Carruth 6’8 180 HS Jr SF
  • Other offers: Troy, Coppin St, Grambling St, High Point, Bethune-Cookman, Tulsa, Kennesaw St, NC A&T, IUPUI, Clemson, Xavier
• William Lobor 6’7 HS Jr SF
  • Other offers: Maine, Murray St, Tennessee St, Missouri St

11 minutes ago, ChubbyHubby said:

Kevin, The coaching argument has carried over into many of the threads, not just the Jim Whitesell thread.  I expect to see the Whitesell/con vs. Whitesell/pro argument to carry over to one or more of the threads for Football, Volleyball, Track and Field... very soon.  I have to say that I very much agree with one of the 2 sides.  I'm just sick of it infiltrating every thread.   It has gotten old.  

As a member of the "con" crowd. I think our opinions have a lot of good facts behind them. However, I can agree that they shouldn't be taking over every post. Though, in some posters defense, certain people poke the crowd with every chance they get. Literally no reason to make stupid comments about Graves in every single thread that's clearly about the portal. 

12 minutes ago, SGBull said:

Can you all make a new thread for this? I keep thinking one of our players transferred

I thought I had a thread already for this but I load into this thread looking for doom and I see more coaching arguments. 

There are certainly some interesting ways the last 2 years have been perceived. 

1 minute ago, mikescherrer8 said:

We have donors?

haha I giggled at this. 

Didn't they want Hodgson to be the coach? 

1 minute ago, DooleyBull06 said:

Both Reese and Hamlet left at a time where we were deep and loaded. Had they waited their turn at UB, last season and this season would’ve been theirs. Specifically Hamlet. Reese would’ve been a key bench contributor. Hamlet a key starter IMO.

Hamlet left in 2018 right after Summer practices before the huge ranked year. He and Reese were on the scout team together all year. I had a chance to speak with Javion.

2 minutes ago, MKBullsfan said:

You mean he used to make $2 million. He got canned and will be looking for any opportunity to bounce back and won’t be getting any P5 offers. Buffalo would look like a dream job to him

This is very Perfect. I had the same thoughts today when I saw it happen. The next stage for him is a high level mid major. UB would be a perfect fit for him, but they wouldn't make the move, even if they should. 

1 minute ago, DooleyBull06 said:

Something is fishy there. The chairperson in the interview didn’t go into too much detail. But hey I’ll take it. Belmont should absolutely be in. The other schools can eat it lol

They were all 90 or worse KenPom

The NIT I swear just goes down the KenPom list 

UB in over Belmont, Furman, Marshall and UAB 

Hey at least this thread ended up mattering

Let's go bama!!!!!!

7 minutes ago, DooleyBull06 said:

After next year we have 5 players on the roster. Skogman, Williamson, Gallion, Hardnett, Zachary? After next season we are rebuilding hardcore.

Can an admin merge this with the other roster thread?

Yeah, that's the doomsday scenario that any who have followed know is coming. 

It could happen in 2021 if any decide to transfer. 

And we will have JW in charge to rebuild.

The usual depth chart thread and player tracker

PG) Ronaldo Segu/Curtis Jones/Ty Perry
SG) Maceo Jack/Keishawn Brewton/Kidtrell Blocker
W) Jeenathan Williams
F) LaQuill Hardnett/Kuluel Mading/ Tra'von Fagan
F) Josh Mballa/Brock Bertram/David Skogman/Zaakir Williamson

Open spots - 1 (Based on how they classify Fagan)

6 minutes ago, 121Merrimac said:

I don’t like that basketball’s success falls on the head coach, while football coaches get to (to some extent) lean on their assistants.  

That's fair. I'm fine with giving whatever one of Whitesell's assistant the blame as well. 

Thorpe came in with an underwhelming profile from losing programs. Thats not opinion. The team's he's had recently were all horrible. His biggest achievements come with getting teams to secondary tournaments. 

Recruiting has been a disaster under Whitesell, leading to the dismissal of one coach when his activities went unnoticed. We have no idea about the new coach, he brought in an underwhelming Zachary and Brewton so far. 

Quarles ticks all the boxes so far to me. He is a great coach and helps with many facets of the team. Hired by Oats though, so that's not a surprise. 

NIT hope is gone. 
Toledo stole the last bid, among others. 

UB could be the "highest rated" team not in the postseason. 

3 minutes ago, Jeseph said:

Which part was wrong

The part where no one has a defense but "we won 20 games and lost to the #12" or "this was better than expected" or "you aren't a fan hater"

1 minute ago, lederh94 said:

Any words about us losing anyone besides seniors?

No yet, but ill certainly report it if I do