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1 hour ago, NC_UBfan said:

The NCAA has finally after 30yrs fully funded a secondary women's tournament which is the WBIT, this is WBIT inaugural tournament. As far as prestige there is no comparison the WNIT has 30yrs of history with many great moments. The WNIT finals will be at the Jayhawks arena Allen Fieldhouse. Depending on the seeding hoping they get a few home games🤘

WNIT has history but WBIT gets first pick of teams. If we make a run it’s nice that we still have the WNIT reputation before most of the general public finds out it’s the #3 tournament. 

WNIT, opponent TBD

17 minutes ago, UBinMD said:

final thought, I’m assuming this is taxable income so does that get held back for the players or do they get smacked with a tax bill of 30%-45% of this NIL money? 

I don't think independent contractors typically get taxes withheld. And the non-cash NIL incentives (car, tattoos, limo ride to the 2005 Heisman Awards) are considered taxable too.

Ideally the collectives will help educate everyone involved in the taxes involved, making ES payments, etc. In reality do you think most are?

2 hours ago, promotherobot said:

There are two: WNIT and WBI.

New this year is the WBIT, which has 32 teams.

52 minutes ago, trueblue32 said:

Probably not a Cage connection as a big man who just got to Canisius this year but bring me Frank Mitchell. His 15.9% offensive rebounding rate and 30.6% defensive rebounding rate were 8th and 4th in the country respectively. For reference Mballa's Buffalo career highs were 14.7% on the offensive end and 22.7% on the defensive end

He also has a eFG% of .566 this year, first in the MAAAC. Similar to Mballa's first season here.

50 minutes ago, DaBulls99 said:

With Reggie out at Canisius, wonder if they have anyone we can snag? 

They can snag our coach

41 minutes ago, DooleyBull06 said:

Do they have that for women? Not joking. Legit question. Are those tournaments even still around for the men?

Yeah there's a few of them. I don't know if we get an invite since we're upper 100's NET, it'll be close. Assuming they're pay to play like the men's versions are, there's still value in playing those this year with this young roster.

3 minutes ago, Bluebird96 said:

Ohio leads 26-16 at the half.  Akron flat-lined the final 5:12.  Groce looks like he’s ready to pitch a fit 🤣

Maybe somebody needs to escort him out of the arena to cool down. Former UB student Tom Hallion can do the honors.

Who are we pulling for in this second semifinals game? I got Kent State

Barring something crazy, Chellia will finish the season with the third most points in a season for UB WBB!

I need a Kent State-Akron final in hopes that the full diss track finally gets leaked.

33 minutes ago, DooleyBull06 said:

Serious not so serious question, if Toledo doesn’t get a bid to the NIT would you rather have choked yet again like them or had the season we had lol

TB32 covers this season, but if you're talking broader success I would much rather have two NCAA tournament wins, 4 tournament championships in 5 years, and be nationally ranked for nearly an entire season than hang some regular season banners and play in a second or now third rate tournament.

If you exclude 2018-19's dream team and a couple MAC Tournament Championships you get me closer to preferring Toledo's regular season success but in the end being in the NCAA tournament counts for so much in the public's eye.

We trade GH3 for Tod straight up. They need a guy that won't choke in Cleveland every year. Last I checked GH3 has never lost a game as a head coach in Cleveland.

Wiard lead the conference in a number of advanced stats and things like Win Shares. Not the flashy pick but acceptable IMO

My analysis isn’t relevant anymore. Freshman of the Year goes to Kirsten Lewis-Williams!

20 minutes ago, capencaper said:

Keep in mind that the Athletics portion "Supports 20 competitive sports teams, open and structured recreation (payroll and infrastructure), intramurals and sports clubs."  So even the $9.58 million isn't an accurate picture of the money that goes toward D1 athletics. 

I think that’s old and they now have a recreation fee. We also don’t have 20 D1 teams anymore

3 hours ago, MuchMany said:

Now the question is, do students pay less here for athletics because they don't care, or do they not care because they pay less? How does such a lack of interest get passed down year after year to fresh student bodies?

I think it’s a combination of a number of factors. No sports culture to begin with so nobody cares. UB is the cheap option, so lots of budget minded students that are here for the education aspect only. Pro teams in town so if you want to catch some sports you go there. (Joke’s on us, our tax dollars are still paying for those teams!)

If the school decided to increase fees and it wasn’t put to a student vote, I suspect you would hear some complaining but overall it’s not going to decrease enrollment because UB is already cheap and a better value than most/all other SUNYs. 

6 hours ago, clodney said:

Let me see if I have this straight.

JMU has 20,346 Undergrads and 1,878 Graduate Students and they get $2,340 out of every student for $52MM.

UB has 21,467 Undergrads and 10,865 Graduate Students and they get $480 out of only the Undergrads for $10.3MM.

If that's the case, therein lies the problem. I hope Graduate Students don't get any perks for Athletic events and are paying full price.

 

UB students are going to oppose any sort of fee increase, especially one that would increase fees to our football program. Grad students especially would also oppose the athletic fee, which I can completely understand. Grad students also don't get admission to athletic events. JMU is a bit of a party school and doesn't exactly have an academic reputation.

I didn't realize until after I graduated how much of UB is subsidized, whether by taxpayers or donors. Tuition is $3,535 a semester, which is an absolute steal especially compared to our academic regional (non-SUNY) peers for in-state tuition.

UB $3,535

UMass Amherst $8,295.50 (includes athletics fee)

UConn Storrs $8,505

Rutgers NB $6,837

Penn State UP $9,836

Yet you can go on the UB subreddit and find a bunch of undergrads that will complain about the cost of tuition being too high. The ROI if you don't get a meal plan and live off campus is absurd.

10 minutes ago, NC_UBfan said:

Why are you limiting to conference only stats?

I'm not. I listed each player's total stats and their conference stats in parentheses. For what it's worth the other players I have listed above are all freshmen and listed in the top 20 for a large majority of the stats.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/conferences/mac/women/2024-leaders.html

If you click on Paige Kohler, Amber Tretter, Kirsten Lewis-Williams, Alexis Davis it's easy to compare them against each other.

For what it's worth I think the race for Freshman of the Year will not include Davis. I think Davis is a huge asset for the team and has one of the top 10 freshmen performances in a UB WBB uniform in the past decade, but her stats this year are below Tretter in every single category except FG%. I also expect to see Davis on the All-Freshman Team.

Head to Head (to Head) Winners

KLW: PPG, SPG, FG%, True Shooting %, Win Shares, Offensive Win Shares, Defensive Win Shares, Win Shares / 40, Offensive Rating, Steal %, Points Produced Per Game

Kohler: APG, FT%, Usage %, Assist %, Turnover % (low)

Tretter: RPG, BPG, 3PT%, Turnovers (low), Player Efficiency Rating, Defensive Box Plus/Minus, Defensive Rating, Total/Offensive/Defensive Rebound %, Block %

Worth noting the stats I pulled are from the schools' websites, not sports-reference which I believe excludes non-D1 opponents. I think it's very possible that KLW gets the award, but it really could go to any of the three players.

12 minutes ago, John said:

Does that mean Watson has another year in the transfer portal

Yes she has another year of eligibility and, assuming she has a degree, is free to transfer again or stay here and play.

In terms of the game it was ugly. Would have been nice to get the win but we're lucky that the game really didn't matter and we ended up with the higher seed anyway.

5 hours ago, enrique14150 said:

Like, "losing to Little Three teams" bad.

This is what's most frustrating to me. We lost to the #6 team in the MAAC and the (oh wow) #8 team in the A10. The A10 is a strong/power conference so their multitude of bids makes the Bona loss bad, I guess. Though I can't believe Bona fell all the way to the 7 seed. If the A10 gets 5 or 6 teams in this year I'll chalk it up as a quality loss.

1 hour ago, NC_UBfan said:

KLW is the clear favorite for MAC FOY

It's actually absurdly close "in my opinion". How would you rank the resumes below for FOTY?

Player 1

Total stats (conference stats)
12.1 (12.1) ppg
5.1 (4.8) rpg
2.9 (2.7) apg
1.4 (1.6) spg
0.5 (0.5) bpg
955 (615) minutes
46.8% (46.5%) FG
71.5% (72.5%) FT
11.1% (0.0%) 3PT (very low volume)
1.00 (0.89) assists to turnover ratio

Player 2

Total stats (conference stats)
10.3 (11.6) ppg
7.7 (8.9) rpg
1.6 (1.3) apg
1.2 (1.4) spg
1.1 (1.2) bpg
865 (571) minutes
39.3% (38.7%) FG
76.3% (77.0%) FT
26.9% (26.9%) 3PT
0.82 (0.52) assists to turnover ratio

Player 3

Total stats (conference stats)
10.7 (12.3) ppg
4.1 (4.6) rpg
3.7 (3.6) apg
0.9 (0.9) spg
0.0 (0.0) bpg
951 (628) minutes
33.3% (35.3%) FG
78.9% (77.8%) FT
26.9% (26.7%) 3PT
1.27 (1.25) assists to turnover ratio

Player 4
Total stats (conference stats)
8.2 (8.3) ppg
6.6 (6.7) rpg
0.6 (0.8) apg
0.7 (0.7) spg
0.4 (0.3) bpg
762 (476) minutes
46.4% (46.0%) FG
63.8% (73.9%) FT
0.0% (0.0%) 3PT (practically 0 shots)
0.47 (0.67) assists to turnover ratio

Anybody catch what happened to get him ejected?

3 hours ago, BrooklynBull said:

Because of the amount of games that Dartmouth plays against public universities, I think the NLRB will decline to take coverage of college athletics.

Why would this matter? Would the NLRB only want to cover college athletes if they were considered employees and could unionize across D1?

5 minutes ago, Blue03 said:

Is that why she ran down the court and shot with like 5 seconds left? Wanted to miss and get the rebound?

That was why they fouled at the end of the game, why Rana tried to miss a shot (but made it), why we pushed the ball rather than run out the shot clock, and why Burke sent Rana to defend the basket on free throws rather than the 6'2" girl that was on the court.

It's really great that we were in a position where the last 4 minutes of a game it turns into "get Rana a rebound above everything else" instead of "score more points, play better defense". This team will probably not win the MAC this year but they are very fun to watch and have a bunch of team players. Rana grabbed what everyone thought was her 10th rebound, which turned into a jump ball, and the entire bench erupted. Seems to be a hell of a lot different than what we had last year.