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UB just need to apply pressure and ASU has a mental breakdown and throws it away.

10 minutes ago, UB05 said:

So who covers Dort on Friday?

Given the AZ game last year and the way Harris covered Ayton, I might give him a shot.  

Am I crazy to feel that ASU and SJU were the worst two teams in the first four, play in games, and that includes the 4 16 seeds?

Also, if ASU is anywhere near as careless with the ball on Friday, Dontay and Jordan will absolutely eat them alive.

This may be the worst effort I've ever seen from a team in the NCAA tournament, by St. John's.  They should be embarrassed and the committee should be shamed for putting them in the field.  

ASU should also be thanking their lucky stars because almost every other team in the nation would have buried them with that putrid second half they had.

ASU looked good in the first half, but has been downright bad in the 2nd.  My overall impression is that St. John's is bad and should not be in the tournament.  ASU is less bad and was a legit bubble team.  They can absolutely beat UB but Buffalo is the better team.

ASU travelling, then draining a shot with their foot on the line but the refs calling it a 3 isn't helping the Red Storm.

St. John's is shooting 30% for the game.  The fact that they have kept it within about 10 gives me a lot of hope for Friday.  ASU should be running them out of the gym.  They've been almost as bad as St. John's in the second half.

6 minutes ago, UB92 said:

I think four Big East teams made it in:  Villanova, Seton Hall, St. Johns and Marquette.   As a note, five other teams made it to the NIT.  One team, DePaul, made it to the CIT or CBI.  In other words, all 10 teams in the Big East made the post-season.

 

You're right, I forgot about Seton Hall. 

This is a bad basketball game.  All the other first four games have been good.  Neither team is shooting better than 31% in the second half.  It's just an ugly game.

The only reason St. John's is in the tournament is because the committee couldn't bear to have one 2 Big East teams in.  They are not a good team. They beat BGSU by 4 at home.  On the road or neutral court, BGSU would beat them half the time.

ASU is very athletic, but also like their coach, are also a bit nuts.  They lose focus easily and make a lot of dumb mental errors.  St. John's honestly looks like a mid-major.  One star player with a bunch of "meh" guys whose job is to just not be a liability. 

ASU clearly the better team, which is also borne out by their schedule.  St. John's went 8-10 in the Big East and their only good OOC wins were a 1 point win over VCU and a 4 point win over Bowling Green.  They should not be in the tournament.

That being said, I hope they find a way to come back and win because ASU will cause UB problems and will be much closer than a 6-11 game should be.

24 minutes ago, ed said:

Ha, no, you don’t get to double bookkeep like that. Sure, engagement may be related to outcomes, but they have an engagement category, and a separate outcomes category that presumably takes into account any outcome benefit from engagement. So no taking extra credit for tracking engagement because it leads to better outcomes, when outcomes are already tracked. 

 

 

I have no idea why you're fighting me on this.  I prefer the WSJ/THE rankings due to their methodology over the US News ones.  UB is #28 among publics in the WSJ rankings and what? #38 in the US News?  Both are fantastic spots to be in for UB.  UB is a top quality academic institution among national public universities.  I'm completely unsure of what your goal is.

2 minutes ago, ed said:

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/USmethodology2019

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/ranking-criteria-and-weights

eh. can't say that reads like it definitively focuses more on outcomes and successes more.  i'd argue that the factors listed under 'outcomes' in the timeshighereducation bucket are weighed less than the equivalent bucket in us news.  i.e. i'm not convinced you're not just picking the higher ranking, but that's ok.  ;D

 

 WSJ  also incorporates student engagement, which has a major impact on outcomes including success and the development of employable skills.  I'd recommend the book Engagement and Employability by Dr. Adam Peck for a primer on the link between student engagement and outcomes achievement.  There's also a demonstrated link between student engagement and retention and success.

Again, you can think what you want about me and my motives.  But my career is working in student success, retention, and engagement.  I prefer the WSJ rankings because they factor these measurements in, in a more modern way than the US News does.  

27 minutes ago, dutchcountry7 said:

You're right.  The product on the court is really what people are paying to see.

People will pay to see directional state play, if it is a good game.  But if it is a blowout, then they don't get any entertainment value. 

This is why I want to see an improvement with the schedule.  Stop playing non-D1 games and weak teams.  Bring in good teams like the "no name" schools that are going to steal first round wins this week over the power conference teams.  The teams at the top of the mid-major conference can play!  Bring them in. 

Wait, since when do people not get entertainment value from a blowout when UB wins?  I love when UB blows teams out.  WTF are you smoking mate?  Or is this more of, "I think this, therefore everyone thinks this", just like your sham poll?

1 hour ago, ed said:

based on?

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public

Wall Street Journal/Times Higher Education Rankings.  It's a newer system that foregoes some of the more traditional US News metrics like SAT scores and class sizes to focus on actual outcomes and student success more.  Far better system that better reflects the actual experience a student will have. 

I'm not saying this because UB does better in it.  I work in higher education and do work with student success and engagement and the WSJ rankings are a positive step up from US News.  The selectivity of a school, or the SAT scores of their applicants or metrics like these, which US News relies heavily on have little bearing on the actual quality of education a school provides.  

I did misspeak.  Minnesota is #27 and UB is 28.  

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/student/best-universities/best-public-universities-united-states

This is a bad poll.  Lots of binary choices that are NOT binary in reality.  I will not vote in it unless you decide to re-write it in a non-biased way.

In Cleveland I said to Mark Alnutt, "Mark, we're going to be playing for the American championship in a few years, right?"  His response was, "Oh yea, that would be nice!".

You heard it here first.  Confirmed. We're moving to the AAC.

😄 😄😉 

23 minutes ago, xDerekRx said:

Im actually going there today for some golf stuff and was thinking the same thing! If you can break the Syracuse Orange/NY Yankees overkill of common products, then its on.

Cracker Barrel.  The Cracker Barrel on Transit ONLY sells Syracuse stuff.  And it is infuriating.

1 hour ago, rma said:

Tuned in this morning for the drive in and they brought up that men’s and women’s are playing at the same time.  Great to see BOTH basketball teams get a little air time. 

I got to work too soon, but sometime this morning Howard was going to be interviewing FLJ on air.  They're getting love too.

I chatted with Tripathi briefly on the court after the women won in Cleveland and this is basically the gist of what I said.  I thanked him for supporting athletics and mentioned how it's so important that the public perception of the University be bolstered by successful big time athletics to more closely match the demonstrated academic success of the University.  Basically, we're the #28 public institution in the nation, ahead of places like Minnesota, but no one know us.  The athletics success has helped so much in swaying public perception across the country of the university and that will have a positive impact on recruiting faculty, recruiting students, and soliciting alumni donations.  He agreed and said that the impact they've been able to measure has been massive.

6 minutes ago, DooleyBull06 said:

LaPhonso Ellis just raved about us.  He has us going deep making a final 4 run.  Spoke about our defense and the big 3. Seth Greenberg has ASU beating us.  He says we take bad shots.

Seth Greenberg is a tool.  We sometimes take rushed shots, but I rarely see us take bad shots.  

2 minutes ago, sportscliche said:

More than a little uncomfortable. The hyped-up teams have a nasty habit of flaming out in their first game.  This makes for great TV, as all the networks drop what they're doing to zoom-in on the upset in progress.  It's the under-hyped teams -- the ones that don't seem to get much attention -- that seem to win games.

I have to disagree.  Most of the time the hyped up teams win just fine.  We just remember those that fail more because of the spectacle around it.  

16 minutes ago, John said:

I still do not understand how UB as a 6 seed and the most wins in the country can’t be put in a bracket closer to home?? The women being put in the bracket with UConn and Louisville and to top it off both teams playing at the same time and same day???? The women’s chair person was stumbling and never could answer seeding questions from the ESPN panel that made any sense to me. They all come across like they care about mid majors and the like but they are so biased toward the power conferences that it is sickening especially with her reasons for having  Tennessee in the field.At any rate looking forward to wins by our teams. Go Bulls!!!!

Honestly, each of the last two times the women have been to the dance it's been similar.  The women's bracket is always a mess that often makes little sense.  The men's bracket can actually be predicted fairly well because the committee is, for better or worse, rather predictable in how they operate and most decisions are understandable.  The women's bracket though is like throwing darts at a dartboard.  I have no idea how they come up with it.