Jeseph

1 minute ago, MuchMany said:

I know this isn't the best time for this, but the last four years the team was actually pretty exciting (featuring three years of Rondo Jeenathan, two of Graves, one of Davonta) and went 70-49. Underachieving, frustrating, unable to live up to the astronomical standards of Oats? For sure. But we're getting a bit revisionist. In that interview I posted recently, even Oats expressed serious doubt that they could maintain the standard. 

We've had players that flash excitement. We've had games that flash excitement (I was at the Ball State game in Muncie and thought "hey, maybe I can get behind this team). We have not had an exciting team (one that makes you think they can win games of consequence) in 4 years.

IMO there's a difference between a fan like you who understands the game and can see potential in statistical categories like efficiency and then there is the general public/donor base that says "I want to support a winning program". We are currently seeing what happens when the latter is left unsatisfied.

3 minutes ago, DooleyBull06 said:

Sorry to break it to you though, this thinking is exactly why we are where we are. No NIL investment equals losing. Equals no interest from fans and donors. Equals irrelevance. Equals death. The landscape has rapidly changed over those 4 years. Rapidly. Hate to keep brining up the U, but a final four team all bc of NIL. It matters. Can’t ignore it. To ignore is to become what we have become. Left behind.

And this department will just keep saying "but we need donors!" after spending 4 without putting an exciting team on the floor. "Hey, we just got turned down by 3 straight coaches... care to throw us a couple hundred grand?"

They do nothing to support the ask. No effort, no accountability, no hope for the future.

Just now, rma said:

I want that money going towards ripping up the track

It's not though.

Why doesn't Russel Salvatore head up our NIL Collective?

2 minutes ago, trueblue32 said:

While Calhoun does not get me super excited winning at YSU as hard. From Jeff Goodman's poll a couple years ago on the best jobs in each league YSU was last in the Horizon League:
https://watchstadium.com/horizon-league-coaches-rank-the-best-jobs-in-the-conference-12-28-2018/

 

Where they win: “Honestly, I can’t really think of anything. The job is brutal.” – Horizon head coach

The knock: “Where do you start? It’s by far the toughest job in the league, and it’s not even close. They don’t have support, tradition or really much to sell, to be honest.” – Horizon assistant

Well he seems to prefer it over a jump to UB so...

36 minutes ago, Kevin said:

Jeseph was right back on 1/8/2020

This is why "just give him a chance" doesn't play out. Mediocrity left us with no donor base, no energy from the department and no interest in the job. What a travesty of a hire (they I desperately wanted to defend)

lol cool cool

So when many of us said Whitesell was draining the program and MA was doing nothing behind these scenes...

1 minute ago, ub2019 said:

We can assume McCollum turned down the job as well correct? Have not seen that officially reported, but seems like it is trending that way. 

While it hasn't been explicitly reported - if Cohen was 1st and Calhoun was 3rd...

Is UB Men's Hoops going to host open interviews like McDonalds?

Stop by Alumni Arena from 10-2 on Wednesday (sorry, we don't currently have a $200 signing bonus in the budget).

If you're the 4th name on this list how do you say yes today?

We look like such a joke right now.

I have to assume the department is feeling some shock from this as well. How long does a re-group take? Do they have to start interviews again? How fast are they slinging out offers? Were these denials done days ago but we're just learning about them? How many offers can they realistically make?

This sucks.

5 minutes ago, MuchMany said:

No other school's search has looked like that.

I'm trying to imagine a scenario where a coaching search could go worse...

Do they even have a list left?

The plan was to have somebody named by Final Four weekend. Are they just going to mail merge offers out and hope somebody responds?

This search went from anxiety to a complete embarrassment that is going to lead to, at best, a 4th choice leading a team with a downward trajectory. This is an absolute dumpster fire of a job by the AD.

3 minutes ago, MuchMany said:

This account seems semi legit. So feel free to freak out about a terrible coach turning us down. 

 

 

If this is true I expect the HC position will be on indeed.com by lunch

4 minutes ago, capencaper said:

At what point do we consider it a top priority to get out of our one-bid league? 

Well, we can't seem to woo coaching candidates so I'm not sure what our sell is to a better league?

More positive press. What a program!

No matter how you cut it we're clearly not a program that is able to go out and get the guy they want. 2 hires in a row and we're targeting 2nd, 3rd choices late.

1 minute ago, MuchMany said:

It can be how coaching works imo. If he's an A coach with D talent, he's doing his part to raise their level.

Re: recruiting, sure he'd be in the same pool for talent, but he'd have far more resources at his disposal to use on his already established connections. If I go to Wegmans with $200 in my pocket, I'm going to get better groceries than with $50 at that same store. 

At least legally speaking this is more like driving to Wegmans in a nicer car and maybe a better outfit. That $200 is maybe $100 at best after Whitesell through away our cache.

14 minutes ago, ukbro00 said:

He's much better than his record indicates.

That's not really how coaching works IMO. I get that YSU isn't a basketball mecca but he's not exactly coaching against the greatest teams so I would expect more than 1 finishes above 6th place in... 6 years. What should show us that he wouldn't come in and middle in the MAC given it would be essentially the same [geographic] recruiting base?

Yea, I have very little interest in Calhoun. No real success as HC outside of a decent single season in the Horizon League. Sounds like a fall back option to me and I agree if he's truly in the mix I am losing confidence in this hiring campaign.

47 minutes ago, Chet said:

What a great read. Thanks for sharing this one. I loved Skeete. Great name and even better player. 

I didn’t not have Skeete on my coaching search thread bingo card lol

McCollum, Cohen, Hunter, Washington