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27 minutes ago, Dabulls said:

I know this is unrelated to Kuluel but as somebody who just recently transferred to UB, how big of a recruit was Jeremy Harris? Wasn’t he like the second highest overall player to ever commit to UB?

He was really special. I’m not sure if we anyone realized until we saw him playing but he was a hell of a recruit with an instant impact 

Since we are all looking to hear about guards, figured I would mention this as a possibility. Chose Houston over us, and is once again in the transfer portal. Went from playing 25.4 minutes per game at Idaho to just 9.9 at Houston 

This is great. Still need guards though, can’t have a full roster of nothing but forwards. Hope we hear something soon about Jones or another talented guard.

4 hours ago, Tee4three said:

Indian hills was that hodgson's school? I feel like we have had a player or 2 from there recently

Like the teams also interested in Jones, solid mid majors who always seem to develop players

Hutchinson was Hodgson but Indian Hills is regularly pumping out D1 players on a yearly basis 

To be fair, my response was very boomerish 😂 

38 minutes ago, DooleyBull06 said:

Ok boomer lol. I’m pulling your chain. Just pulling your chain. But heck take me back to the carefree living and life of a 22 year old. Last I checked the adult world in 2020 sucked and 2021 hasn’t been all that much better. Maybe while playing they are working towards a masters degree. While having lines of credit established. Or are doing an internship. We don’t know. And if they aren’t doing any of that and just wanna play ball let em. This could be the last time they play this high level basketball. 

Hopefully they are, trust me I completely get it though. If I was in their position I’d look for every sort of loophole to keep playing college ball as long as I could 

10 hours ago, BrooklynBull said:

Would you say the same thing if Bertram comes back?

Yea actually. I understand enjoying playing but at some point you have to join the adult world. Thinking about it from a long term financial position, they should start building their bank accounts up and start saving for retirement. Compound interest is an amazing thing at their age

6 minutes ago, skrabukes said:

You didn't answer the questions or provide any further insight on this player. Like usual, you just provide negativity. Again, since you are so knowledgeable,  please enlighten the rest of us.

Let me ask you, how does me knowing Kidtrell mean I know the reasons for his decision? Does me knowing him automatically mean I know every single thing about him? Want me to tell you his favorite color and his hopes and dreams too? 

14 minutes ago, skrabukes said:

Then I guess you should be on the staff. Please enlighten us with your coaching/ athletic background and knowledge. This way we all can learn. This player must be the only one out there and now we aren't going to have a full roster. Maybe he went to Ga State because they aren't as good as UB (UB 77 and GS 155 last year in kenpom or maybe he wanted a lesser league challenge with sunbelt having 4 teams in top 200 of net vs mac with 😎 and he feels he'll get more playing time/better stats. Since you know him so well, please give us the reason why he chose them over us so that we can close this thread.

What a joke of a response. Just because I know Kidtrell means I should be a D1 coach? Get over yourself lol. Also if you realized the coaching/athletic experience I actually have you wouldn’t have responded so smugly. I’m not going to publicly identify myself on here though. 
 

I’m also a HUGE fan of you ignoring my further comment. Guess it didn’t fit the narrative you have in your head huh?

2 hours ago, skrabukes said:

None of us here even know this guy, so we have no idea if he's a good guy or not

Incorrect, speak for yourself, not for me.

2 hours ago, skrabukes said:

all we've seen is his tape (and to be honest I haven't even seen that). 

So you haven’t seen what he has to offer but are still forming opinions of his ability based off of........ what exactly?

Edit: To clarify, I don’t think the sky is falling when it comes to recruiting. It’s been an extremely abnormal year for recruiting with Covid changing everything. Even Nate Oats missed on numerous prospects so having Kidtrell commit elsewhere isn’t the end of the world. With that being said I also don’t appreciate the narrative of “who cares? Just trust in the coaching staff, they’ll figure it out.” When the current staff has only hit on 1 or 2 out of their numerous recruits so far. Having unrealistically high expectations is one thing, being completely nonchalant about poor staff performance is another.

This is literally going to be his 6th college season. Dude go play overseas, get your own place, start a family or something.

😐

3 hours ago, skrabukes said:

Good for him.  Who really cares? Let's not pretend that he's Lebron or Jordan. There are hundreds more like him out there. Until they're signed and here,  it's all guesswork for all of us here. The staff will fill the slots, let it happen.

I care. We’ve never recruited LeBron or Jordan level players in our entire history. He’s a very talented, big guard - a position we sorely need more depth in and we were beat out by Georgia State. You’re certainly right about the staff filling in the needed slots, but this stings especially since he’s from Rochester and knows Jeenathan. Recruiting lagging behind again in my eyes 

4 hours ago, UBinMD said:

I feel like with Oats, we heard about every time we talked to a kid, now don't hear much and people get antsy. I get it, I want to know too, but I don't need to hear about 50 offers for people we don't get and hear moaning about not being able to lock up the big recruit. Lance is pretty mum when it comes to offers too and I've been impressed with what he has been able to do.

Which is part of what made him and Hodgson such effective recruiters. Athletes love the spotlight, they love fanfare and such a large part of recruiting nowadays is based on clout and feeling wanted. The new leadership is different in their approach and it’s definitely an adjustment to get used to it compared to previous years 

Just now, UB85 said:

You better hope the good guys are. He’s had some great games against us. 

Whenever he’s hitting his 3s we struggle. It’ll be interesting to see if they can hold him to another poor 3 point outing like last game 

31 minutes ago, Kevin said:

FLOPHIO time

 Who is ready for Flops Vander Plas?

I know I’m ready for the off brand Lamelo Ball to receive endless praise from the commentators no matter how he plays 

1 hour ago, SGBull said:

 

I remember we made a fathead of this and he came and stole it after the game.

I could’ve gone my whole life without seeing this 😂😂

24 minutes ago, squire17 said:

DJ Cooper - his junior year. He was a Bull killer, although his season stats were less than stellar: he shot under 40% from inside, and under 31% from outside the arc for the season. He was 4 of 6 from inside and 5 of 10 from outside in the MAC tourney game against the Bulls...the game that Mitchell Watt was T’d up for hanging on the rim. If ever there was a reason for Buffalo leaving the MAC, that was it. Ohio went to the elite 16 that year.

Many on this site disparage Witherspoon, but he was the coach who was at the helm that year. There is no doubt that home cooking cost the Bulls, but DJ Cooper certainly played a role.

Thank you! His first name slipped my memory lol

Solid points all around. Personally I’d like to see Segu more aggressive offensively. Not sure if anyone remembers that guard Ohio had, something Cooper, who could take anyone off the dribble and was an aggressive playmaker but Segu absolutely has the ability to play similarly. That shiftiness that made him famous needs to make more appearances. 
 

Jayvon is a victim of the talent that surrounded him in his first two seasons. Defenses were too preoccupied with the rest of the roster having the ability to drop 20+ points on them that he was able to sneak into open spots and have plenty of wide open 3s.

My opinion on the coaching is pretty common knowledge at this point but the lack of identity really circles back to Coach Whitesell. Just like Jayvon, he is a fantastic role player but doesn’t quite have what it takes to be “the guy.” The identity under Hurley was swagger, confidence, deep threes and flashy open court passes from Shannon Evans. The identity under Oats was discipline, unselfishness, and relentlessness. The identity under Whitesell is what exactly? Players respond to the energy of their coach. For example this team looked much better when Thorpe temporarily took over because he is firey and energetic. That same team comes out looking less prepared because Whitesell is a teacher-coach and not a motivator-coach 

2 hours ago, Erie County said:

7-7 is what he's always been. That's to be expected. 

I defer all other comments to @961819

 

With coaches, you get what you pay for. The same goes for their history. Whitesell has a long head coaching career and a .500 career record. I don’t understand how Alnutt thought that would change. Not every good assistant coach is cut out to be a head coach.
Whitesell is a great guy, nice person, but personally I think the good coaches have to be able to say the unpopular opinion. The good coaches are motivators and firey competitors that hate losing more than anything else. If you want to stand out in this industry, you have to have a chip on your shoulder and something to prove 

8 minutes ago, Erie County said:

What's the luck score say?

SIXTH game they've lost at the under 4. 

I think the luck score is negative for this team 

Just now, Erie County said:

Fire the coach. 

He's now 0-4 against Kent, Ohio, and BG. 

He's .500. Put your hand up if you've heard that before.

But our Kenpom ranking is similar to previous coaches were in their 2nd year man that has to count for something right?

2 minutes ago, Tee4three said:

Am I out to lunch that ub under thorpe was 10x the team they have been under whitesell?

Nope they absolutely played better 

1 minute ago, Erie County said:

No David Nickelberry will.

What in the world was that?

Crazy we thought he’d be the next Harris