UBigbobby

That was some NBA shit right there. Good to see they still got some mojo.

Ok cool.

At look at that. Williams can be effective when he doesn't try and do his Steph Curry impression.

Well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

Was anything we said inaccurate?

The offense consists of someone getting the ball and trying to take on the entire KSU team while the rest of the Bulls watch. No ball movement. It's slow, and uninspired. Polar opposite of how this team normally plays. On defense they're letting guys absolutely blow by them. No focus, no effort.

That all sounds fine unless they lay another egg in the second half here vs Kent State...

Harris always strikes me as a lazy player that relies on his smooth shot, except his smooth shot has been off more than on this year in most games. Apparently he often wins the hard hat so he IS doing hustle stuff, so maybe he's just one of those guys whose body language looks like crap but he's actually going hard?

I also struggle to understand how a team that was making wave with their top notch suffocating D has now gone back to back games seeming like giving a damn on D and being a seive. What happened? If they put up even a decent effort on D going forward they probably win...but...damn.

Jordan is so good at so much...except...you know...the whole point of basketball. He's such a bad shooter. It's so sad because he's really next level at everything else.

I work with colleges and universities. Whenever I talk to a co-worker who has contact with Kent State I tell them that we used to say, Can't Read, Can't Write, Kent State. They always unanimously agree.

I agreed that UB SHOULDN'T fall far, however I think you're giving far too much credit to the media voters thinking they aren't that biased in favor of power conferences. To Seth Davis in NYC who probably only watches the big games on national TV, NC State already has more leway because of conference and brand, and they lost to an ACC team, and his opinion, a bad ACC team is worlds better then an "ok" MAC team. The blue bloods and power conference teams can absorb losses more easily than an upstart mid-major. I think that's just the reality. If UB were in the Big Ten and lost to Illinois or something...sure, maybe they only drop 5 or 6 spots. However...sadly...they're not, and to the media voters, that really does matter.

Honestly, I don't think it will. The game was on ESPN+ so no one watched it. It will get 5 seconds on the 11 o'clock news and that's it.

We all process loss in different ways Jeseph. I like to be able to vent with other fans and then move on. Also, I didn't pick a fight with anyone. Derek basically called me negative and I laughed and agreed. I only disagreed respectfully with one poster who I felt was blaming the refs too much. Said poster did not take my respectful disagreement well and brought up a metaphorical comment about the way the team was playing being akin to the way Lance Leipold (who I dislike) coaches because he or she apparently did not understand it.

Yes, obviously I hate UB. I was actually a mole for Ohio all those years ago when we were in the student section together. I play the long game.

If they throttle Kent I think it's 50/50 if they stay ranked. Yes, lots of ranked teams are losing. Those ranked teams are not losing in front of 5 fans at NIU, however.

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?? What? I said it was like Leipold was coaching the team based on the way they were playing. Do you actually think I blamed this basketball loss on the football coach?

I hope so. All of those schools lost to teams better than NIU and come from bigger conferences where the voters are going to much more lenient. Hell, Duke lost to unranked syracuse at home and fell a grand total of one spot.

Of course, we all knew there would be a loss or two at best...but...this one is rough. Would have hurt less against a program that had some cache this year. This loss won't age well.

Haha, just being honest. Listen, this season has been, and I'm confident will continue to be amazing. But like coach Oats told the team before Syracuse...there are no moral victorys anymore. All the stuff I said is true. Their play has been trending downward since Toledo and Miami and a game like this was coming based on that. They weren't ready to play and it showed. Also, We can complain about a single game effort and result without chucking out the rest of the season, which I'm doing. I'm not sitting here saying their a bad team or anything, but there is no defending that effort, no matter how blue your glasses are. Lastly, I hate that football team, so I really didn't enjoy the season. They have the personality of their coach. Read: NONE and couldn't handle even a bit of pressure in the worst conference in college football.

If your style of play is killed by the refs evenly calling a tight game...then you don't have a sustainable or good style of play. Sure, UB likes to play faster, but the talent on this team is more than enough to overcome that. They solidly beat Syracuse who slowed things down with the zone. They can, and should win games like that, especially in the MAC and especially against NIU. The UB Bulls shit the bed in this game. There was no ball movement on offense and everyone was chucking up terrible shots and praying. They had no hustle or focus on defense, and they turned the ball over like a Reggie coached team. This loss is 100% on the players in blue and no one else.

Also, I don't think the officials were bad at all. I don't like how tight and ticky-tack they called the game, but they were consistent and even with no glaring bad calls. I would have preferred them letting more go, but the calls they called were generally speaking, legit, though maybe weak, fouls.

THey were asking for this. THey have't looked like the team they're supposed to be since Toledo/Miami. Each game there have been more errors, more turnovers, worse rebounding, less effort. THey got to the MAC and won a couple big and decided to just coast. I love Oats but they simply haven't been ready to play most MAC games this year. Halftime adjustments have been enough to get them turned out and winning, but the writing was on the wall for this.

Looks like Leipold took over coaching duties for this game. Heartless, mentally weak, unfocused "effort" with boatloads of mental mistakes. Just like football.