BrooklynBull

UMass is back, for all sports, per The Athletic.  How long for UConn?

15 hours ago, rma said:

Currently at 580 with 4 to go in the regular season, Cleveland seems very likely but not a certainty. With her season average and 5 games, she'll be at 696.

Magic number to go Cleveland is one.  Although looking at the standings it would appear to be two, but UB beat Miami and swept Ohio.  So a UB win or a loss by either Miami or Ohio sends UB to Cleveland.

27 minutes ago, MKBullsfan said:

Those were the days when we could get a UConn or UNC to come to Alumni. Makes you think, will we ever get a big time program to come to Alumni again? 

Calhoun told Reggie that night that he was never coming back to UB to play.

UNC came as part of three game deal.  Their top guard was Ed Cota, whose high school coach was on staff at UB, Roc Eisenberg.

1 minute ago, everlast2504 said:

Totally forgot the other coaches name but we got under his skin a got him T'd up for yelling at us. 

Dan Dakich.

20 minutes ago, everlast2504 said:

The Pitt game close to (checks math) 20 years ago? WTF I'm old.

The game where Reggies was hitting the refs table buzzer to get BG back out of the locker rooms because the ran away with time still in the game. 

Ditto the UConn game (from the reports I heard) the night before the Ball State MAC Championship Game in Detroit.

8 hours ago, TheCommish said:

I’d rather fund the buyout of a bad coach, upgrade to charter flights, or fund NIL than remove the track. If we were 11-0, people would fill it but we lost to an FCS team twice. 

Football and basketball fly charters already.

51 minutes ago, rma said:

The rest of what you said I don’t necessarily disagree with, it’s just how the industry has changed. Cam Newton took (allegedly) around $200k to play at Auburn. These days $200k wouldn’t get you close to a heisman winner. 

It was Newton's father.

9 hours ago, TheCommish said:

I'm trying to start one,

Contact UB Athletic Compliance and they will guide you as to what has to be done to start a NIL collective, then call a lawyer.

By the way the last time I was in Buffalo, I spoke with people in the Athletic Department about a way to start an NIL fundraiser.  But because of the change that would occur to do what I had suggested, they would have to find another way to fill the whole in their budget caused by the loss of income.

9 hours ago, TheCommish said:

Do you really think someone will come to a game for sunglasses? No, it's extra/bonus just as beer is. it is not going to bring one extra person to a game are you against giveaways then? 

Actually give aways do bring extra people to games.  In the dark days of the Horace Clarke era for the Yankees, Bat Day would sellout every year, 67,000+.  The rest of season 20,000 was a good crowd,  Also as someone posted someplace here, on Tuesday a large percentage of the students left after the winner of the Drake tickets was announced.  So people went to the game for a giveaway.  Sometimes people will go to a game for the halftime show, i.e. Tony Hawk at a football game years ago.

10 hours ago, MuchMany said:

This absolutely untrue fyi from personal and anecdotal experience. The number of people I've seen socializing and enjoying a drink in the concourse this year during 20 point losses alone shows it's been appreciated. Not to mention it's just civilized to offer adults beverages should they choose to partake.

But would those people have gone to the game if there was no beer?  There is a difference between enjoying something that is offered for sale and only going because it is available.  As I said if you need to be able to have a beer at a game to go to a game you may have a problem.

1 hour ago, UB Horns Up said:

I like BrooklynBull but I think UB needs some younger people in leadership positions with Blue White to understand the college athletics landscape we are living in today.

I understand the need for NIL.  The people in power in Athletics know this as well.  The question is who is going to set it up.  TheCommish types a game, but has done nothing to raise any NIL money, other than saving UB needs 440 people to put up $10,000.00 each on average and asking me for $150.00.

1 hour ago, UB Horns Up said:

It’s not an age thing some people can change like myself that see the new reality of NIL and things like selling beers at UB Bulls games from a business view standpoint. Which if memory serves me BrooklynBull wasn’t a big fan of selling beer at games because of liability or something? Nothing happened UB Bulls today sells beers we all survived.

My position was against selling beers because, it is not going to bring one extra person to a game and because you cannot sell any to students, except some seniors and graduate students (ah for the good old days and 18 year old drinking laws, DAMM MADD).  I have not seen UB's numbers on beer sales, but for the initial year the money raised at Ohio University was negligible.  I also do not know if the Athletic Department gets any of the money from the sale of beer on campus.  All alcohol sales on campus are controlled FSA d/b/a Three Pillars Catering.

As for your position on beer, you were in favor of it until after the Baylor game on a Friday night.  You then came out against it because of the amount of issues in the stands that night.  Not sure when or why you switched back.

1 hour ago, UB Horns Up said:

Forget about improving UB Bulls weight rooms players want the money in there own pockets.

Even with NIL money, facilities can make a difference where a student goes.  Between the fieldhouse and new training facility, with NIL being equla it will give UB an advantage.

1 hour ago, Blue03 said:

Yes a lot of them were student athletes that left, but the rest of the students were there because they were giving away Drake tickets, and they all promptly left as soon as the winners were announced

The return of Tony Hawk.

1 hour ago, MuchMany said:

One of the most infuriating home games in my history of attending. 13-point favorites against a bad Army team and lost by 13.

Hence triskaidekaphobia.

In a video yesterday she was throwing brick according to the coach.  You could hear the shots clanging off the rim.  She seemed to be moving ok in the background.

8 hours ago, TheCommish said:

BrooklynBull's primary role is to generate funding for the university in some fashion, which might influence his perspective on NIL structures.

That is not my primary role.  My primary role is working to be able to do what I want to do in my life.  Part of that is donating to different parts of UB.  I have had a plan since I began my work life over 40 years ago on how to have the money to donate to UB, among other schools.  I have booster restrictions on me at Stony Brook, Oakland and BC (that one is real stupid, because I became a booster there when buying a parking spot for a UB football game there).  I also donate to multiple other educational institutions and charities.  If I was all about generating money for UB, then all of my other donations would be going to UB.

8 hours ago, TheCommish said:

Albany Great Danes:  GDLC is overseen by an alumni board of directors and its website says it is an “approved 501(c)(3) tax exempt organization operating as a private foundation.

This appears to be a one team collective.  The "G" on GDLC does not stand for Great, it stands for Grayed.  Their website says that they are unaffiliated with the school.  Do you want individualized collectives by team or one for the department as a whole?

8 hours ago, TheCommish said:

The path forward for the athletics at UB to compete in Division 1 athletics is NIL.

So other than rant about my donations and what I support and the legacy that I want to leave at UB, which will become even larger, with an announcement near the end of the academic year, what have you done to set up a NIL program?  Have you done anything to form a 501(c)(3)? Have you gotten a commitment for any money besides the $150.00 that I said I would give, if able to without violating NCAA restrictions?  Have you pledged a dime of your money that will be going into a NIL group?

Also they way you talk you make it see like NIL money will bring success and winning.  Texas A&M football may disagree with that theory.

To paraphrase McCartney and Lennon:

11 hours ago, TheCommish said:

Art gallery? How many graduates do we have in music and art every year? How many professors do we have? I was told the whole program is basically one on one tutoring.

So you want to shut down entire departments, cause people to lose jobs and force students to transfer?

4 hours ago, TheCommish said:

Brooklyn is just worried people will start donating towards the NIL instead of vanity projects.

What vanity projects are there?  Has athletics built something that was not needed?  Naming rights can go on buildings, suites, rooms or lockers.  The beauty of naming rights is that a name goes on somthing that is already there or being built, for very little money.  That allows the bulk of the money to be used for other things that are needed.

12 minutes ago, TheCommish said:

"NIL "donations" are not donations," - false. NIL payments are donated to plenty of non-profit orgs. "NIL collectives are tax-exempt 501(c)(3) organizations," https://www.alston.com/en/insights/publications/2023/10/the-irss-latest-play-on-nil-collectives The IRS has said the NIL payments are not deductible.  The link is earlier in this thread.

"They are payments for which an athlete is supposed to do something," So let's say hypothetically a high level donor wants their relative to get a job and they're one of the least qualified candidates, fast forward, years later, the results proved they were unqualified IMO. Did that ever happen at UB? 😃 Not that I can think of.

"You will get an apology as soon as you make a donation to athletics or a payment into a NIL fund.  Until then I stand by my statements," I'm trying to start NIL fund with people on this board. Will you donate? Start at $150 Prove to me that the fund exists and approved so that it does not result in any NCAA violations (See Virginia and Tennessee) and I would consider it, if I get the ok from Compliance to donate to it.  However, if the only donations are from me and you, no, because it will be meaningless.

Responses in bold.

15 minutes ago, TheCommish said:

It’s called NIL. Explain to everyone why donating to name a building is more valuable than getting a starting 5 that can win a national championship. Please explain. 

NIL "donations" are not donations.  They are payments for which an athlete is supposed to do something. If they do something for you are they could be your employee?  Do you have the proper insurance if they get hurt?  Donations to name things after yourself or another leaves a legacy for the future.  NIL is fleeting at best.

18 minutes ago, TheCommish said:

we spent $9m on adjunct professors. The money is there on the campus, they're choosing to spend the money on things they want to fund. 

That money is to keep the number of actual employees of the school lower.  It saves the school millions of dollars by not having to provide health insurance and retirement benefits.  UB is not alone in moving to more adjunct professors than full time employee professors.

22 minutes ago, TheCommish said:

if people truly care about ub athletics, we would start funding an NIL. 

By the way, I graduated from ub. I’ll take the apology any minute.

You will get an apology as soon as you make a donation to athletics or a payment into a NIL fund.  Until then I stand by my statements.

2 hours ago, 1975 said:

And didn’t UB cut a handful of sports around 7 years ago to save money? They’re very unlikely to add another sport.

Correct.

27 minutes ago, TheCommish said:

ub is not funding athletics properly if we must rely on body bags game to fund our athletic department

Almost every school not in the now power 4 conferences fund their programs with payday games.  Kent State takes three a year.

37 minutes ago, TheCommish said:

play more home game, less body bag games

Do you think that UB clears more money for a home game than a payday game?  Of the four non-conference football games how many do you want at home?  Schools like UB will rarely have three of the non-conference games at home.

29 minutes ago, TheCommish said:

I’m disappointed that is how you treat alumni.

I have no idea who is and is not an alumni member.

29 minutes ago, TheCommish said:

When you speak to donors and they say I’m cutting back or pulling my money, is your rebuttal “you’re part of the problem,”?

I do not speak with donors, other than people I personally know who donate.  I am not a fundraiser for athletics, anymore.  There was a time frame when directors of the Blue and White Club made fund raising calls.  That stopped in the late 1990s.  I have not made a fund raising call for any part of UB since, and yes I donate to more than Athletics.

Those who cut back or stop and have a reason for what they are doing and are better than people who donated $0.00 and complain that there is not enough money for athletics. 

Almost regardless of what you economic situation is, people can probably scrape together something to donate.  I started at $15.00 a year and created a plan over the years to increase my donations on a yearly basis. Put your money where your fingers are.

45 minutes ago, 1975 said:

He has the right to mock anyone he wants and you have the right to not like it. Until UB gets serious about building and supporting winning programs, and until someone can show me a positive correlation between private donations and success on the court/field, I’ll keep my money in my pocket. 

So UB needs to get "serious about building and supporting winning programs" before making a donation.  That is an assumption without basis, that UB does not want build and have winning programs.

But they need money to get "serious about building and supporting winning programs".

You have a created a chicken or egg situation, with the result of UB not having the money that you believe that they need.  That makes you part of the problem and not the solution.

10 minutes ago, TheCommish said:

That will win a lot of games, naming rights for a door knob. 

To paraphrase Lance Leipold's, football is football and to paraphrase Sabrina Ionescu's, if you can shoot, shoot; money is money and it can be used for anything.

Since you have given a total of of $0.00, you do not have the right to mock anyone who donates anything for athletics.

17 minutes ago, RapidsFan said:

Remember when you started a campaign to have Brooklyn sports news published in The Spectrum because you were too lazy to haul your ass to the library and read the New York Times...

 

 

I have no idea what your fascination with me is about and why you are posting things from 40+ years ago in The Spectrum.  You are right, I never did go to the library for The New York Times.  I went to the Library to go drinking.  I paid for a subscription and picked it up every day in the bookstore.  However, at the time of this letter, I believe that I would not have been buying The New York Times because if it was being published, it was published with scabs as the Writers' Guild was on strike that summer and fall.

Let me give you a lesson in analysis.  The letter was not a call for The Spectrum to run stories on sports from New York City.  It was in response to prior letters submitted to The Spectrum complaining after an article about New York City sports, about the Yankees, if I remember correctly and the hypocrisy of the prior letter writers who did not complain about an article that was published the prior year, nor an article at the same time about Lou Piccone.

By the way I also submitted two Quotes of the Day to The Spectrum.  One was from Al McGuire, "The best thing about a freshman is that he becomes a sophomore."  The other was from Fred Flintstone, "The problem with people is that they do not have enough fun in their life and not enough life in their fun."

Stop posting about me and my family.  I have posted nothing about who you are, let alone about your family, nor have I done anything to you, except asking you to report about a turnover in a Rapids game.

1 hour ago, RapidsFan said:

The current students are getting nickel and dimed by the school and the administration treats them poorly. Students see the football stadium as a giant "fuck you" monument on a campus that's heavily isolated.

Of course the alumni who never had to worry about money are wondering why everybody doesn't have "school spirit".

One of UB's least self-aware employees was crying about it 46 years ago.

Guess who...

I am not an employee of UB. Remember the B in UB is for Buffalo not Brooklyn.

1 hour ago, TheCommish said:

You can't win without NIL, this is not 2020. I want to start NIL, redirect the donors away from you, form a real powerhouse.

Nobody donates to me.  My donations are ear marked for projects and naming rights.