BrooklynBull

It is not a five year extension.  It extends the existing contract until the end of the 2023 season.  If it was a five year extension Leipold would have been without a contract since earlier this year.  It is probably an extra three years on the current deal that was extended after his first season.

More here: http://ubfan.com/bb/index.php/topic/314-leipold-extended/&tab=comments#comment-4700

Coach Leipold signed an extension through the 2023 season.

http://ubbulls.com/sports/fball/2018-19/releases/20190205grt6oj

More importantly are the dates.  November 21, 22 and 24.

Make your reservations now.  It is the Thursday, Friday and Sunday before Thanksgiving.

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37 minutes ago, dutchcountry7 said:

I believe the story is that the Big Ten played UConn against Rutgers.  While they were never considering UConn they made Rutgers think that if they didn't take the deal they would just move on to UConn.

 

You also have your numbers wrong.  You're not showing athletic department revenue.  You're showing expenses.  That's how much athletic departments spend. 

 

UConn was a stretch to get into the Big 10.  They are not an AAU school.  All of them members of the conference were when they joined the conference.  Nebraska is no longer an AAU member because of not enough research dollars at the school.

9 hours ago, bull_trojan said:

I think on conference realignment you're either the buyer or the seller. I'd argue Rutgers/B1G was about as even a transaction you could hope for, B1G wanted the NY market, Rutgers wanted a P5 landing spot. B1G offered them an awful deal, Rutgers could have called their bluff but they didn't, (although how do you explain to your fans you turned the B1G down?) they may never recover.

The Rutgers situation I think shows that you should only move conferences once your revenue is on par with the new conference and if the conference is going to immediately distribute revenue evenly with you. 

UConn makes $83 million in revenue

Cincy - UH - UCF - USF - Memphis - ECU averaged $54 million in revenue

MAC averages $31 million in revenue, UB had $36 million.

So AAC 54-2 (tv deal) = 52
UB 36-800k = 35.2

So we'd have to make an additional 16.8 million dollars/year before we really could be competitive in the AAC. I don't think despite being as successful as we can probably hope for in Football and Basketball that we made significantly more money.

The Big 10 had rejected Rutgers earlier.  They did a study and found that adding Rutgers did nothing for the conference.  They ended up being added because Fox wanted to get the Big 10 network on cable systems in the New York City area.  They used the YES Network as leverage to for cable systems to add the Big 10 Network.  Take the Big 10 Network on basic tier or you do not get the YES Network.

Granted that is a classic anti-trust violation, however, what cable provider wants to claim anti-trust violation against a provider.

1 hour ago, dutchcountry7 said:

What type of money does a second or third round WNBA player make?

Not much.  That is why a lot of the players, even the first rounders and stars, play overseas in the WNBA off season.  The need the second jobs to be able to afford to live.

43 minutes ago, John said:

Has UB left yet for Bowling Green?? Are they taking bus or plane?? I think it takes 6 hours by bus?? Hope they are able to leave early enough so it won’t affect them mentally or physically!! Go Bulls!!!!

They have arrived.

10 minutes ago, ubmae86 said:

Is this a pay for use website? If so, do you collect donations so that admin isn't paying it all on his/her own?

Last I knew the ads were covering the expenses to run the site.

Anthony Johnson announced yesterday that he has an invite to the NFL Combine.

46 minutes ago, promotherobot said:

Oh come on, there must be thousands of UB alums downstate and in the island. Maybe they don't care that much on any given day, but just like in WNY, a winning program may rekindle some school spirit among some of them. UB has as much base in NYC as Rutgers, Fordham, or any other downstate area school.

As someone who has gone to watch parties for over a decade the answer is that the number of alumni who turn out is relatively small.  The two biggest crowds were for Kentucky last March which was a Saturday and from pictures I saw for the MAC Championship game in December.  The MAC Championship game had a large draw because it was originally set as a happy hour and converted to a happy hour/watch party.

The non-watch party events draw much larger crowds than watch parties.  Except for a few diehards, who were diehards when they were at UB, not that many people will show for a watch party outside of a the same core people.

6 hours ago, rma said:

I cheer more that we're 20% closer to having somebody on the other team foul out than for the shot.  Last night the fouls were more important than the shots.

 

Somebody from the university archives tweeted a picture of a MBB game ~30 years ago.  It looked like what today's attendance of a mid day weekday women's basketball game in a blizzard would be like.  And I don't mean that as a dig at the WBB team - quite the opposite.

2 hours ago, UBigbobby said:

Buffalo's problem in terms of becoming a Big Ten school IMO isn't just athletics investment, it's also regional loyalty and appeal.  This is what Danny White was trying to address with the NY Bulls initiative that people were trying to run him out of town for.  Big Ten school's are all the flagship institutions in their state.  In all but a couple cases, their official name is State University at/of/, etc. However they simply go by the state name due to their size and prominence.  The University of Michigan isn't actually called just the University of Michigan.  it's The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor.  Wisconsin is The University of Wisconsin, Madison.  Minnesota is the University of Minnesota, Twin Cities, etc. Hell, even Penn State.  The Penn State we know is Penn State, University Park.  There are like 20 Penn States (I work with them).  Penn State, Erie Behrend College.  Penn State Greater Allegheny, Penn State Beaver, etc. Of course we're the State University of New York at Buffalo.  Same deal, however due to history and the Buffalo inferiority complex, we insist on going by Buffalo, rather than New York. For UB there is, IMO a limiting factor on the University's branding reach due to the local population being so hostile to transitioning to UB becoming the Minnesota, Twin Cities of NY State.  This damn Buffalo inferiority complex is getting in the way.  By branding themselves as New York, more than Buffalo, just as Wisconsin brands themselves more as Wisconsin than as Madison, and then combine that with actual athletics success, you can start to build towards becoming the state university that EVERYONE in NY gets behind, like in those Big Ten states.

Without that, I fear that UB will never have the marketing appeal or support beyond WNY.  People in Poughkeepsie, or Hampstead, or NYC would likely get behind the University of New York, but I'll be damned if they're going to buy in to rooting for Buffalo, for example.  As a result, I don't think UB will ever join to Big Ten because of issues like this.  Honestly, I think we shot ourselves in the foot by putting up so much resistance to Danny White's plan.  

This is also why I think UB maxes out as an AAC school and despite being a peer institution to the Big Ten...UB just doesn't, and likely never will have the statewide marketing reach needed.

That name changed was floated by Tom Golisano in exchange for a large donation around 2002. It was rejected and properly so, by President Greiner.

As for getting behind the University of New York, there would be issue with that name because of New York University, a school that has not been followed, despite the name,  since before it dropped to Division III after getting over the gambling scandals.

1 hour ago, BullsFan14 said:

I think we have more of a chance to apply for the Big Ten in my opinion. Top public universities similar size and in relevant areas. We would bring in the NYC market more than Rutgers (IMO). Rutgers is struggling right now. UB can capitalize.

I do not believe that any school can really capture the New York City market.  The reason is no one cares about college sports in the city.  The only people who would care about UB in the Big 10 or other power 5 conference will be UB alumni and possibly natives of Buffalo who have moved to New York City.

7 hours ago, promotherobot said:

This is just me pulling stuff from an orifice. Could you imagine this scenario...the Big East inviting Buffalo for men's and women's basketball?

I know that they don't have football. And I'm not sure what other sports are in the Big East. Maybe the Bulls stay in the MAC for everything else.

Why would the Big East want a school that doesn't really fit their profile, a big state university?

Because Buffalo gives them a footprint in a region they used to have with Syracuse. It's also a quality program that's starting to get national cred.

Plus this version of the Big East is young and trying to re-establish itself as a premiere conference. Adding a top 20 program, and a recent top 25 women's program, would raise their profile even more.

Not sure what our deal is with the MAC, and whether a school can move one sport out but stay in the rest.

 

Thoughts? Is this just nuts?

 

Nuts.

5 hours ago, weareub46 said:

Wait is this something new? Because I remember Temple and UMASS both being football only 

Temple agreed to play multiple MAC schools in basketball (possibly other sports as well) as part of their football participation. UMass had four years as football only.  It was either move everything or leave.  They left.

29 minutes ago, Jeseph said:

My bigger complaint (that I've made many times now) is that I pay for ESPN+ yet can't watch ESPN3 games 😞

You have to watch ESPN3 games through the Watch ESPN app and ESPN+ is through the ESPN App.

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6 hours ago, squire17 said:

He was fouled in the act of shooting while there was still time remaining. Therefore it was a two shot foul (not a 1 and 1), as all fouls in the act of shooting are called. Time in the half had expired before the ball left his hands, so the basket did not count. The basket never counts, if the ball hasn’t left the shooter’s hand(s) when time expires. The only question is does the clock stop at the point of the foul or at the point of the shot: The refs clearly judged that the clock stopped after the foul - and Oats said it was a proper call. Are the refs and Oats both wrong? I don’t know.

If the shot left his hand after the buzzer why was 0.2 put back on the clock?

4 hours ago, DooleyBull06 said:

Coach on the radio this morning said Graves didn't practice yesterday and isn't looking likely to play tomorrow.  Great opportunity for the younger guys to play more minutes.  Maybe Caruthers starts but call me crazy I would start Williams.  Lets him play with the upperclassmen (where he can play within the flow of the game) and still come off the bench with Perk and Caruthers.  

All that said I expect Alumni to be finally rocking and the team to come out and really play solid. i expect a double digit win.  

Crazy.

3 hours ago, skrabukes said:

Yes, best officiated MAC game for the season thus far, in my opinion.

The way I saw it, the foul occurred with 0.2 on the clock, thus stopping the clock. The fact that the shot actually took place after the buzzer went should be moot, since the foul should stop the clock. That's why I feel it should be a basket plus one shot. If he was fouled and the shot (was considered to have take place after the buzzer) didn't count, wouldn't it be 1-and-1 foul shooting, instead of 2 shots? I am quite flummoxed by this one and I am not sure if there are specific examples that are referenced to in the rule book regarding a play like this. I don't grasp the "The ball was not released in time, so it would just be like if he missed while being fouled in the act of shooting", because the clock should stop once the foul takes place, therefore there should be time on the clock.

Thankfully the boys put a nice 2nd half together and the point was moot, but I am still in disagreement with the call at this time.

The problem is that the ball was released in time because they put 0.2 seconds back on the clock.  He was fouled in the air, so he was taking the shot.  It should have been a good basket and one shot.  However, if they say he was fouled before the shot it should have been 1 and 1 since it was on the  9th foul of  the half for Kent State, the double bonus goes into effect with the 10th foul of the half.

17 in the Coaches Poll.  First time higher there than in the writers poll.

On 1/25/2019 at 7:33 PM, skrabukes said:

We were cost 2 points at the end of the half. If it was a 2 shot foul, the basket should've counted. They only had 9 team fouls, so if it was no shot, it would've been 1-and-1. VERY costly error on the refs part.

Congratulations, between three officials, two coaching staffs, two announcers and two message boards the only person in real time who posted about the blown call.  I realized the error but had no ability to post at the time.

On 1/25/2019 at 8:09 AM, SGBull said:

While looking up some of the players I was voting on, I realized something. We finally are above .500 as a program and don't look like we will be dropping below anytime soon!

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/buffalo/

It is only missing from 1932-32 until 1973-74.

Best thing about the move is that I will be able to get to Akron on the 23rd to see the women in person for the only time this regular season.