squire17 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 One would think that the increased vibrancy of UB’s athletic teams would translate into an increased interest in applying to UB and a concomitant better academic caliber of students at UB. I think that there actually is such a connection - and I believe that it is stronger than many would care to admit. The reason that I started this topic is that “Business First” just published its academic rankings of all public institutions of higher education in the United States. Buffalo fell from being ranked 27th last year to 42nd this year. I find this dismaying especially in light of the tremendous accomplishments of the UB athletic teams over the past few years. I don’t know how much credence to put in the results or the methodology that was used to determine the rankings. There does seem to be a disconnect, however. I have a theory that after these rankings are first published, many institutions try to game the system by ‘tweaking’ their numbers in order to enhance their standing. By the way, 42nd is still pretty damn good - especially considering the price of attending. Any thoughts, while we await the big announcement(s)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everlast2504 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Need more stats to be worried. There could be enough on the list for 42 and 27 to basically be tied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) To put some perspective into these rankings. #2 North Carolina (above schools like Berkeley, UCLA). #16 Binghamton above #17 Minnesota, #19 Ohio State, #22 Pitt. #76 is AAU member University of Arizona. #83 SUNY New Paltz is two spots below #81 University of Nebraska. #122 University of Cincinnati is two spots above #124 SUNY Oneonta. Kent State University is not considered a "lower echelon" school. Edited April 3, 2019 by rma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire17 Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 Don’t want to gloat, but: Arizona State 67 and University of Alabama 70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChubbyHubby Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, squire17 said: Don’t want to gloat, but: Arizona State 67 and University of Alabama 70 Sure you do. As well you should. 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 What is Business First, and why should I care? I've literally never heard of the org. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire17 Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, ed said: What is Business First, and why should I care? I've literally never heard of the org. Business First is an on-line/paper news establishment. It may have many hubs. In Buffalo NY, it daily dispenses info regarding just about anything that purportedly can be measured statistically. I don’t know if you’re from WNY, Ed. But if you are, you ought to at least take a look at their yearly school comparison issue. The info is available for subscribers either online or in magazine format. Now as to why you should care: I think that the more information that is available to examine, the better decisions that we can make. But you may think otherwise, and I respect your decision to make your own choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, squire17 said: Business First is an on-line/paper news establishment. It may have many hubs. In Buffalo NY, it daily dispenses info regarding just about anything that purportedly can be measured statistically. I don’t know if you’re from WNY, Ed. But if you are, you ought to at least take a look at their yearly school comparison issue. The info is available for subscribers either online or in magazine format. Now as to why you should care: I think that the more information that is available to examine, the better decisions that we can make. But you may think otherwise, and I respect your decision to make your own choices. In SoCal since I graduated. As for caring, I'm still not sure why I should care about the national rankings of a random online source. What makes them worth anything? It seems to be "**buffalo** business first"? - does anyone outside buffalo care what they have to say? If not, what does it matter what their rankings say? Are they any better than a ranking from, for example, the Cortland standard (insert random local paper of your choice)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire17 Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, ed said: In SoCal since I graduated. As for caring, I'm still not sure why I should care about the national rankings of a random online source. What makes them worth anything? It seems to be "**buffalo** business first"? - does anyone outside buffalo care what they have to say? If not, what does it matter what their rankings say? Are they any better than a ranking from, for example, the Cortland standard (insert random local paper of your choice)? Ed, you are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Just now, squire17 said: Ed, you are right. There's no right or wrong. I'm **asking** who are they, and why should we care. If nobody knows, well, I guess I know the answer. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire17 Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 Ed, were you on the debate team in high school? Hah? Ed, come on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Seriously, I wasn't arguing or debating. This wasn't a bullshit "I'm just asking" 'question'. I just wanted to know who the f' business first was. They appear to be nobodies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBulls Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_City_Business_Journals There you go. Each paper caters to the local market of publication, but the patent company is based elsewhere. Lists/rankings including school rankings (other examples- lists of fastest growing companies, data with regards to income growth and population change) are a popular item prepared for and distributed to each of the local markets for publications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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