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Hurley is a good coach and if he stays, we keep Nate as top assistant, so I assume we'd be better. So yes I think Hurley would have performed as well or better if he stayed...

I agree, the issue to me seems to be that people don't think out their performance based incentives and I don't think they budget properly for them... Fresno (https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/marek-warszawski/article222053650.html) did a good job with intentional incentives, but they are paying Tedford a bunch...

MAC makes 833k annually per school. AAC deal is up, they could make as much as 20 million annually per school and are not expected to make less than 10 million annually per school. Less games in Ohio, more games in our Student-Alumni footprint. Long trips to fun destinations: Houston, Dallas, New Orleans, Orlando, Tampa, Carolina Coast, Philly, Memphis...

Explain Hurley. More resources in a down PAC 12 with UB's best player, and UB lost their 2nd best player to discipline, and somehow Oats has out preformed him every year at UB.

Did hodge get injured? he had a slow 1st 40 and no 2nd 40.

1) invest in football 2) maintain basketball 3) ?????? 4) Profit.

We lose 2 fall to 25. Marquette loses a million falls to 23.

While this has veered into a convo about investment it is interesting that it took Gonzaga 10 years and 24 years to invest in upgrades to their facilities. Few only makes 1.4 million/year. so Gonzaga didn’t do it by throwing money at it...

Football attendance 2018: 110,280. Basketball attendance 2018-19: 74,054

Villanova has football. So I focused on "new money" teams who's runs were from their first or second NCAA tourney appearance. By 01-02, SIU had already gone to the Dance 4 times. But your over-arching point is valid, it's hard and what can we do to prevent this from losing steam. Gonzaga flirted with Mountain West as a Basketball only, that's really the only outlet they have without going somewhere with crazy travel. The MW is all in on it, but Gonzaga is not. They have a pretty good thing going being the huge fish in a small pond, and by publicly flirting with the MW they got the WCC to give them more $ and security (i.e. the double bye)

The other side of the patience thing that sometimes gets overlooked... to us Nate is a 4 year coach "early" in his career. To Oats, he has been patiently coaching and building his career for 22 years. If you look at it from his side, why would he wait?

Buffalo (2014-15 thru 2018-19) During Run: Record: 115-52 (68.86%) NCAA Appearances: 3 NCAA record: 1-3 Coaches: Bobby Hurley, went to ASU after 2014-15 Nate Oats, Top Assistant under Hurley Attendance Average: 3,898 Increase over period: 45.35% Overall Facility upgrade Arena: N/A Practice Facility: N/A Conference Change None

Gonzaga (1994-95 thru 1998-1999) During Run: Record: 109-47 (69.87%) NCAA Appearances: 2 NCAA record: 3-2 Coaches: Dan Fitzgerald, Retired after 1996-97 Dan Monson, Top Assistant under Fitzgerald, went to Minnesota after 1998-99 Attendance Average: 3,428 Increase over period: 5.27% Five years after the Run: Record: 133-32 (80.61%) NCAA Appearances: 5 NCAA record: 6-5 Coaches: Mark Few, Top Assistant under Monson Attendance Average: 4,240 Increase over previous 5 year period: 23.69% Overall Facility upgrade Arena: 2004 (10 years after start of run) Practice Facility: 2018 (24 years after start of run) Conference Change None

I wanted to try to map out the Gonzaga path to see if we could learn anything. Over a 5 seasons period starting with the team's first or second all-time NCAA tourney appearance (since 1995): over 105 wins over 65% win pct At least 2 NCAA tourney appearances At least 1 NCAA Tourney win Mid-Major program 9 Teams fit the bill. Gonzaga (1994-95 thru 1998-99) Valparaiso (1995-96 thru 1999-00) Butler (1996-97 thru 2000-01) College of Charleston (1996-97 thru 2000-01) Kent State (1998-99 thru 2002-03) Harvard (2011-12 thru 2015-16) Florida Gulf Coast (2012-13 thru 2016-17) Stephen F. Austin (2013-14 thru 2017-18) Buffalo (2014-15 thru 2018-19)

WCC specifically changed their tournament to keep Gonzaga from going to the Mountain West

San Fran strugggling late in their quarterfinal game Cuse loses to Clemson Marquette sucks now WVU finishes dead last in Big 12... a little help guys?

11. Purdue - loss at minn, win at northwestern 12. Houston - win vs SMU, at Cincy 13. Kansas - loss at Oklahoma, win vs Baylor 14. FSU - win vs VaTech, win at Wake 15. VaTech - Loss at FSU, win vs Miami 16. Marquette - loss at seton hall, loss vs georgetown 17. Nevada - win at Air Force, vs SDSU 18. K-State - win at TCU, vs Oklahoma 19. Buffalo - win at Ohio, win vs BGSU 20. Cincy - loss at UCF, vs Houston We should jump Marquette to get to 18, how will voters view bad losses by Purdue, Kansas and VaTech? If not favorably we could get as high as 15.

Miami +32 or Akron (+19) who do we want?

I think the CMU women split the vote and CD wins...

I'm gonna go with TB better than CJ. CJ better cast, better offense, better teams, but it's TB individually.

Ohio wins!

OHIO up 5, threw the ball away, Miami hits a 3. Then Ohio falls on the next inbound traveling is called, but the Ohio coach called timeout before the inbound pass. My god they are trying to lose this.

Survive and advance season... Duke by 1 at home against a team 7 games under .500 (yea no zion, but we have a banged up CJ and had no Jordan for a lot of the game) Kentucky by 4 over Ole Miss Purdue lost to Minnesota Kansas lost by 13 to Oklahoma LSU is struggling at Florida right now Marquette is in a free fall finally we're in just win baby season. If we win 8 more by a total of 8 points we'll all be happy.

CMU gonna win, Ohio up 2 UB up Does that mean? 1 CMU 2 Ohio 3 UB 4 Miami

Also I think you have to acknowledge that they are freshmen playing against a team that is 150% prepared for the toughest game of their season. Outside of the first Ohio and the first Toledo, every MAC school has played us at a higher level...(you go back and watch those teams play and you're like how did they even stay in our atmosphere?) The good part about that is I think when you get to year 2 and 3 of these guys, they've have never played a game where the intensity level wasn't at 11. So they know they have to be at a 12 at all times. So when they are starting 5 guys, the intensity and the work is there.