Jeseph

3 minutes ago, Dabulls said:

For some reason I can’t see the image, what is it of? @Chet

Report that Cal has had 2, maybe 3 people turn them down - also hints that a hiring from a "rival" could be imminent.

I'm guessing the next time we hear a name is by way of [at least semi] official announcement. Probably means a few days of anxious silence.

Just now, capencaper said:

Bit of a stretch to say that he's intentionally sabotaging the basketball program.

Remarkably efficient for the lack of intention!

3 minutes ago, BullBoy said:

I don't know how many times I can say this.  Alnutt is a football guy.  The more he brings down MBB, the better Football looks.  When was the last time he did any sort of improvements for Hoops?  Football is getting something new every day over in their facility, while there have been zero improvements to Alumni Arena.

I am sure coaches are asking what his vision is for basketball and what capital projects are in the works. I am sure they can see how uncommitted he is

It's honestly probably as simple as this and it's infuriating

4 minutes ago, Blue03 said:

Would it be the dumbest thing ever to hire a high school coach. Someone that took a bad school and made them good?

We need them to be an assistant under a former ACC point guard first

Just now, promotherobot said:

Did Alnutt go into this process thinking he had X dollars to offer and then had the rug pulled out from under him by the UB administration?

It seems like knowing that information going in would be a good place to start...

Well yesterday was devastating but at least it was interesting...

Forgot that I had seen a job listing for this from Becky Burke the other day...

Just now, ChubbyHubby said:

Hi Gang,  I've been off the grid for the last week +.  I don't feel like going through 35 pages to find out where we are.  Someone please summarize for me.  Who have we offered the job to that has turned it down?  Who do the leading candidates seem to be at this time?  Thanks,

Offered and turned down: Adam Cohen, Ben McCollum
Maybe offered and maybe turned down: Jerrod Calhoun

Leading candidates (in no order):
Me
@Kevin
@BrooklynBull
Angres Thorpe
Jim Whitesell
Christian Schmidt
Heather Turner
Vadim Fedetov
Jackie Moon

Yea this firm should take a lot of blame. Unless the AD is even more inept than we think you can’t bring candidates to the table if interest isn’t there. I understand that deals are negotiated on both ends but 0-3 on OFFERS at this level is completely and utterly unacceptable. This whole process is an absolute mess and everyone involved should be on some sort of hot seat.

20 minutes ago, capencaper said:

Looking forward to seeing how this mess plays out. 

How much of this falls on the search firm we hired?

Did we definitely hire a firm?

I am now taking the position that they should hire somebody as head coach.

My source (me, telling a complete lie) tells me that Miles is leaving because Cohen is coming to Buffalo after all

Lol we've got coaches turning it down before we even know they're in the hunt?

1 minute ago, MuchMany said:

I have no idea what the contract length thing is about, wasn't discussed at all. Can't see the contract ever being three or six years, so would it really come down to four vs five? I'd hope not.

This all seems weird. I can't imagine Cohen genuinely plans to be here for more than 3-5 years...

2 minutes ago, C1ubP1fanaticM7 said:

I wonder what that means? 

They're asking somebody to come in and build a monster and offering/showing no support for them to build it with.

5 minutes ago, clodney said:

That way anyone lurking won't think our fans are complete idiots.

Hey, I'm a complete idiot too but I fully expect people to understand that early on.

42 minutes ago, Jeseph said:

Are you sure you aren't a UBFan ChatGPT bot?

3 minutes ago, clodney said:

Can Cohen be kicked out of Bills Mafia now for his betrayal? 

Maybe he said no because Alnutt wouldn't stop talking about Mahomes?

2 minutes ago, UB Horns Up said:

Why? It’s part of the deal UB Bulls as a UB Bulls fan it is a state school. Good or bad you accept it laugh and run away to watch private Western New York Little Three basketball Bonnies, Griffs and Purple Eagles. You don’t give up UB Bulls basketball you don’t expect much out of UB Bulls basketball and UB Bulls football long term like the Western New York Little Three basketball schools. Buffalo’s highest college basketball team is the Bonnies we can thank UB and New York State for that. That is why I always say at some point the Canisius Golden Griffins will pass UB Bulls again because there problems are fix able a new Griffs basketball arena for $70 million dollars. UB Bulls athletics many of the problems aren’t ever fixable because they are New York State total control of UB. New York State can’t control the Western New York Little Three basketball schools, St John’s Red Storm or Syracuse Orange as examples which is sad for UB there always going to be chasing those historically private basketball schools in my opinion. UB Horns Up! Go Bulls! Let’s Go Buffalo 

Are you sure you aren't a UBFan ChatGPT bot?

Just now, trueblue32 said:

The bright side is we aren't a farm system for other MAC teams like NIU. In '21 their leading scorer transferred to Ball State, in '22 their second leading scorer transferred to Akron, in '23 their leading assister transfers to Akron.

That silver lining isn't very shiny 😅

8 minutes ago, enrique14150 said:

At least a dozen more pages of speculation by those of us with no actual knowledge of what's really going on.

We don't even have speculation left. It's just trauma dumping at this point as @MuchMany said lol

2 minutes ago, trueblue32 said:

Yeah I think this kinda sums up probably the gap in the opinions on Whitesell here. The variance in a given season can really shape the outlook. Analytics help you cut thru the noise, although I understand many fans don't care about that.

I think his first 3 seasons were fine as a "floor" for what everyone wanted UB to become, and that's why I was fine with Whitesell when he was hired. I value never falling off the map like we have started to do this year. Some people wanted a "ceiling" hire during the last go around, and I didn't think that's wrong either, but I think there was risk to starting from scratch and hoping you don't bust on the first season. There are different risk tolerances, but I think everyone hoped for UB to continue to rise one way or another. I would've liked to see UB sit on the Oats' buyout, and then use it to buyout Whitesell after last year when we'd be starting anew regardless, but with a coach with more upside. Hindsight, yada yada.

Now we need a "ceiling" hire and the handling of the Whitesell era has handicapped us. I thought the Whitesell era could've been a bridge to the next great era of UB basketball, but it looks like we'll be stuck settling for a coach and hopefully it works out somehow.

Yea at the end of the day it's the extension that killed us.

5 minutes ago, MuchMany said:

I'll take that as a compliment. 😂

The 2021 team that lost to Ohio in the finals was actually awesome.

It was meant as one.

Right, but they lost that game by 15 and then we got to where we are today and my point is that the results/eye test are what sticks with fans.