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1. Rank: BETTER than 250 2. MAC wins: BETTER than 8 3. PPG for: WORSE than 72 ppg 4. PPG against: BETTER than 75 ppg 5. PPG Top 3: BETTER than 43 ppg 6. PPG Fr: WORSE than 10 ppg 7. 2PT FG%: WORSE than 51% 8. 3PT FG%: WORSE than 35% 9. FT%: BETTER than 71% 10. Turnovers: WORSE than 13 I don't know how much offensive production we're going to get, hoping defense keeps us in games this year.

The red seats are not used for Siena games between 110-115 and 125-130. And the black seats are not set up in that configuration for Siena games either. There's about 4-6 rows of students and band on one side and on the other side it's donor seating (100 max). So okay, let's add a few hundred to the previous estimates, it doesn't change my point. I could pull more data quantifying fan bases but at this point I'm not convincing you and you aren't convincing me. Go Bulls.

The information comes directly from the bid that Albany county put out for the replacement of the seats. Don’t know how I can otherwise prove the seating capacity. Yes I am. I’ve lived in both regions for over a decade. Siena has about as much local support as UAlbany does. But evidently they do a good job of marketing their brand online because of the whole premise of this back and forth. Don’t see anybody talking bulls here, why not argue with internet strangers about something completely irrelevant and unimportant

Yes. I am saying that they don't nearly get the 6-7k that is normally reported as their attendance figures. The entire lower bowl of the MVP arena is 6,106 seats (paywalled source, but you can google it https://www.bizjournals.com/albany/news/2023/10/05/mvp-arena-upgrades-new-seats.html) The good attendance one would have filled Alumni Arena (modern record 6,709) and maybe left some people not able to get in. Even the announced attendance of 9,561 is just over an Alumni Arena and a half (6,100 seats + 3,050). That being said, any Big 4 game should completely sell out when any of the teams are playing each other. What Siena and UAlbany do for that game is what we and the L3 should strive for. I can't get a good wide picture of the seats there so I found a few of other Siena games. Their actual attendance outside of the UAlbany game is similar to ours. Siena vs Fairfield 2022, announced attendance of 4,918 (Sunday 2pm) Siena vs Iona 2022, announced attendance of 6,383 (Friday 9pm ESPNU) This is from the article you linked earlier and is probably the best shot of a non-UAlbany game. Behind the benches are 70-90% full, opposite side closest to photographer is about 50-60% full. So around 4k total? Siena vs Niagara 2023, announced attendance of 7,121 (Sunday 2pm) This looks about 60% full, but we saw in the last picture these are the more full sections, so a little bit lower than the Iona game. 3,500? On the UB side, here's us getting walloped by Akron on a Tuesday night last year. This is the widest shot I have from last year and I doubt UB was posting a lot of wide angle pictures. We announced attendance of 5,001. Actual attendance maybe 3k? Here's the Friday night game against Kent State ESPN2 Announced attendance was 4,207. I think we're probably around 3,000-3,500, with a larger than normal amount of that being students. We're right around where Siena is. Siena has a disadvantage as you said since their arena is off campus and they don't control it. You also have to pay to park there. We're competing with an NHL team, but have a huge alumni advantage and are a much larger school.

I grew up in the Albany area so I know this pretty well. Siena plays in the equivalent of Keybank Center. It's far away from their campus, but central to Albany. The arena is much too big for their program, but since it has a lot of seats Siena can "sell" these tickets to boost their attendance figures. Remember the 22k we had during the Danny White years? One good thing they do is the UAlbany vs Siena game is hyped up as the game of the year. That game is what every Big 4 game should be. But most of the support for the teams after that dwindles. It reminds me of the Bisons 4th of July game. Everybody goes to one game then nobody cares after that. Here's some pictures. Also keep in mind that most of the time the second level is closed off, so all fans are in the 100's. UAlbany game Saturday 7:30pm - good! https://sienasaints.com/galleries/mens-basketball/2022-mens-basketball-albany-cup/9009 The next game, Wednesday 7pm - bad! https://sienasaints.com/galleries/mens-basketball/mbb-vs-army-west-point-11-16-22-/9010 Sunday 2pm game - also bad! https://sienasaints.com/galleries/mens-basketball/siena-basketball-vs-rider-1-8-23-/9023 For comparison UB on a Saturday at 1pm last season (bad!) https://ubbulls.com/galleries/mens-basketball/mbb-vs-jmu/814

What is the time frame for this?

During the height of the Hurley and Oats years it was impossible to get cell phone reception at all during games. That's mimicing Olean, NY. We can also mimic them by not accepting cards at concession stands, having our student section harass fans, storming the court early and making their team lose, accepting transfers that only have a welding certificate, etc. None of that I want any part of. Their university has an awful academic reputation and their men's basketball program has less NCAA tournament appearances than UB does over the last 22 years. Their Final 4 (last time they made it past the first round) and NIT banners are almost as old as Ohio U's last MAC football title. Their women's basketball program gets less support than the pre-FLJ UB WBB team did. Say something nice about your rival: They have a good turnout on Saturday games and have a decent student turnout, which is amplified by where they sit stand in their outdated arena. ETA: Their students stand during the game. That's one thing our students could do. In 2012 a hyped up student section made Matt Stainbrook cry after missing free throws. During the blackout game against Kent State in 2015, after the matinee rap show, True Blue made up for the lack of general public due to the 10pm start. During the Hurley and Oats years we had an overflowing student section that stood most of the time. Right now it's the band (cheer and dazzlers) and a few rows of true blue faithful.

Wonder what the connection is between those schools. Seems like a pretty random matchup. BGSU beat them in an exhibition by 2 points two years ago too. Fairmont State's coach is an Ohioan (connections to Notre Dame College and Case Western) so maybe something there.

They play for the conference championship Yes No They play in the conference championship game

I complained last year about being made to sit in my assigned (men's) seat for a women's side of a double header. Guess I won't be trying that this year. For football this year the parking lot attendant did not allow me to park in my preferred lot, Alumni B. I was told to park in Alumni A and to move to the far corner to allow other cars to fill in. The second game I was allowed to park where I wanted after the parking lot attendants realized this was not a Bills game.

Rockets still need to sign him

They're not very smart. There's a reason they're #361 in the US News rankings. UAkron undergrad enrollment is down 60% in a dozen years. People aren't falling for scams like University of Phoenix and ITT Tech anymore, but somehow Ohioans are still falling victim to the University of Akron. Sad really.

I am not saying that Mo is a PJ Fleck butttttt PJ Fleck had a #1 recruiting class in the MAC after a 1-11 season.

For those only able to watch livestats, UB GK Lexie Thompson has touched the ball a couple times this game so far despite the 0 Akron shots on goal, shots, corners.

The home opener had a full 100 section on the visitor sideline - all students. Student support for football, at least for a 6PM kickoff on a Saturday, is pretty good. Of course a loss to an FCS team and a noon kickoff next game killed that momentum.

There’s a lot of ways you can juice the numbers but we had a record year for donations last year

Judging from my observations and their subsequent jobs I don’t think Montgomery and Cauthen were necessarily “lost” more likely they were not retained. Bailey went to his Alma mater

Should we have fired Lance Leipold in 2019?

Massey ratings https://masseyratings.com/cvol/ncaa-d1/ratings WMU 34 Bowling Green 84 Buffalo 101 Last year UB finished 163 and advanced to the MAC Semifinals for the first time. BG won the conference and finished #75, was swept in the first round of the NCAA tournament by #27 WKU. This weekend WMU plays WKU. Massey predicts us to be competitive against everybody in conference except WMU and BG. https://masseyratings.com/cvol2023/979

I made plans months ago to go to Louisiana. The kickoff time being so late is making it much less appealing to still go. I hope being competitive or winning this game gives me the push I need to still go.

I thought we were just on the waiting list last year

Missouri was ranked 62 in Massey. Xavier is 136, Bulls currently 94.

He also has one (1) winning season in that time frame. I appreciate him for what he did at UB and I will root for him (personally, not CC) but he's on borrowed time as a head coach.

Yep. Soccer deserves better than playing on a football field. Football deserves better than playing on a field with soccer lines. Anywho, I'm ready to see this team start a new FCS winning streak this Saturday.

Great times in 2015 when our men's soccer team was on a tear and TB went to both Canisius and Niagara, was louder than the home fans, and UB won.