DocCas86 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Maybe a little early - but trying to get through the initial dog days of August. CollegesportsMadness.com has annual top 144 teams. So far they have listed two MAC teams: Miami (OH) - #144 Ohio - #127 They indicated that there are two more teams remaining from MAC. Currently they are #99-Pepperdine, so two remaining teams they have ranked in top 100. To put the preseason rankings into perspective, I looked into how well they predict ranking. Here are their results for the past 9 years: As you can see not an exact science. Their biggest miss was 2018-19 when they predicted us to be #74. That said, I decided to also check how good they are at predicting order of finish in the MAC. As you can see, over the past nine years, if they predicted a team to finish first or second, the likelihood is slightly better than 50/50 (55.6%) of finishing in top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Interesting statistics! So who are the remaining 2 mac teams? Bowling green, Akron, UB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGBull Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Tee4three said: Interesting statistics! So who are the remaining 2 mac teams? Bowling green, Akron, UB? My guess would be Bowling Green and UB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 hours ago, SGBull said: My guess would be Bowling Green and UB. That would be my guess as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 Here is another view on the track record of this ranking. The fact that the blue and green bars are relatively close indicates that the site does a reasonable job of projecting ranking of the top MAC team. However, in last five seasons, they only picked the top team once - the Bulls 2018-19 team - which was a bit of a no-brainer. Here are write-ups for the other projected top teams over past five years. 2015-16: Central Michigan - Predicted #61 / Actual #158: https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/11907 2016-17: Buffalo - Predicted #68 / Actual #122: https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/13503 2017-18: Western Michigan - Predicted #93 / Actual #188: https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/15011 2019-20: Toledo - Predicted #80 / Actual #152: https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/17718 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 13 hours ago, Tee4three said: Interesting statistics! So who are the remaining 2 mac teams? Bowling green, Akron, UB? Akron wouldn't even be a top 2 team in the D3 Middle Atlantic Conference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 11 hours ago, rma said: Akron wouldn't even be a top 2 team in the D3 Middle Atlantic Conference Barttovik has them at #189, but this is incomplete as it does not include contributions from a couple of JUCO transfers. Akron is a hard team to predict, but I think they will be in 140 - 160 range, but definitely not top 2 in MAC. They have LCJ who is likely good for close to 20 ppg. Camron Reece (SR) and Greg Tribble (SO) are returning. They combined for ~9 ppg last year - BT has them doubling that. You also have a couple of transfers Maishe Dailey (Iowa - 3-4 ppg) and Bryan Trimble Jr (St Johns - 2-3 ppg) that they are expecting a combined 16 ppg. Finally they have a couple of JUCO transfers - Taylor Currie (Mott CC - averaged 24 ppg) and Jemaine Marshall (from FL Southwestern - where he averaged 10 ppg). So a lot of new faces so I expect a lot of ups and downs and ~ 0.500 season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
121Merrimac Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 LCJ - I don’t even need to hear his name, just seeing the initials makes me think of Loren Christie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 On 8/7/2020 at 8:56 AM, DocCas86 said: Barttovik has them at #189, but this is incomplete as it does not include contributions from a couple of JUCO transfers. Akron is a hard team to predict, but I think they will be in 140 - 160 range, but definitely not top 2 in MAC. They have LCJ who is likely good for close to 20 ppg. Camron Reece (SR) and Greg Tribble (SO) are returning. They combined for ~9 ppg last year - BT has them doubling that. You also have a couple of transfers Maishe Dailey (Iowa - 3-4 ppg) and Bryan Trimble Jr (St Johns - 2-3 ppg) that they are expecting a combined 16 ppg. Finally they have a couple of JUCO transfers - Taylor Currie (Mott CC - averaged 24 ppg) and Jemaine Marshall (from FL Southwestern - where he averaged 10 ppg). So a lot of new faces so I expect a lot of ups and downs and ~ 0.500 season? Oops, thought I was in the football forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted August 8, 2020 Author Share Posted August 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, rma said: Oops, thought I was in the football forum. Oh now I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecoveringHillbilly Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 The 144 countdown rolled out all the 14 seeds in their mock bracket in their rankings to this point, with the #1's for the WAC (NMSU) and CAA (Delaware) being listed the last few days. Hope to see BGSU soon then expect to see UB as a 13 seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecoveringHillbilly Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 BGSU slotted in as 2nd in the MAC, at #91, right ahead of DePaul at #92. We're 1st! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gxtrex Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 36 minutes ago, RecoveringHillbilly said: BGSU slotted in as 2nd in the MAC, at #91, right ahead of DePaul at #92. We're 1st! How sure are we its us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecoveringHillbilly Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) High certainty, based on opinions. Lunardi has us a 14 seed, other sites have either us or BGSU as the top team. As mentioned in another thread a while back, Akron was gutted. Now just a matter of how high they place us. I'd imagine we will be in the next 5 slots. If we get lower than 85 then the authors have a lot of confidence. I'm curious to see how they slot us compared to Bona, Vermont, and Georgia State. Edited August 13, 2020 by RecoveringHillbilly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
121Merrimac Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, RecoveringHillbilly said: ... I'm curious to see how they slot us compared to Bona, Vermont, and Georgia State. I am also curious about 2/3 of this, but I don’t understand the interest in Georgia State. What am I missing out on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecoveringHillbilly Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, 121Merrimac said: I am also curious about 2/3 of this, but I don’t understand the interest in Georgia State. What am I missing out on? Rob Lanier. I'm curious how well he leads Georgia State in comparison to how well Whitesell keeps us going strong. Plus he grabbed Joe Jones out of The Park School, out-recruiting all the Big 4 for Jones. Edited August 13, 2020 by RecoveringHillbilly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 8/6/2020 at 8:50 PM, DocCas86 said: Here is another view on the track record of this ranking. The fact that the blue and green bars are relatively close indicates that the site does a reasonable job of projecting ranking of the top MAC team. However, in last five seasons, they only picked the top team once - the Bulls 2018-19 team - which was a bit of a no-brainer. Here are write-ups for the other projected top teams over past five years. 2015-16: Central Michigan - Predicted #61 / Actual #158: https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/11907 2016-17: Buffalo - Predicted #68 / Actual #122: https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/13503 2017-18: Western Michigan - Predicted #93 / Actual #188: https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/15011 2019-20: Toledo - Predicted #80 / Actual #152: https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/17718 Well if we are the top MAC team per this site...hope the site predictions are better this year than the previous five years. May be we will not get to find out if they are right. 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecoveringHillbilly Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 #76, very respectable. They have us as the second highest 13 seed, just ahead of projected 13's, Yale and Furman. https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/18707 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everlast2504 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 On 8/13/2020 at 2:15 PM, RecoveringHillbilly said: Rob Lanier. I'm curious how well he leads Georgia State in comparison to how well Whitesell keeps us going strong. Plus he grabbed Joe Jones out of The Park School, out-recruiting all the Big 4 for Jones. I'm gonna be the debbie downer here. Unless it's a blue chip player we should moved past getting excited about beating out the Big 4 for locals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted August 28, 2020 Author Share Posted August 28, 2020 On 8/13/2020 at 2:15 PM, RecoveringHillbilly said: Rob Lanier. I'm curious how well he leads Georgia State in comparison to how well Whitesell keeps us going strong. Plus he grabbed Joe Jones out of The Park School, out-recruiting all the Big 4 for Jones. FWIW - does not look like Georgia State is going to make this list. Texas - Arlington (#3 in SB)- https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/18585 Little Rock (#2 in SB)- https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/18691 My guess is it will come down to Georgia St or Texas State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
121Merrimac Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Georgia State #74 Vermont #71 St Bonaventure #60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gxtrex Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 https://www.three-man-weave.com/3mw/mac-preview-2021 They have us at 2nd in the MAC behind Bowling Green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Blue ribbon released their predictions, they have ub finishing 7th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Tee4three said: Blue ribbon released their predictions, they have ub finishing 7th Hmmm not sure I see that. Any rationale? Also curious who are top 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 2 hours ago, DocCas86 said: Hmmm not sure I see that. Any rationale? Also curious who are top 6. Mac sports twitter tweeted a picture of it, no explanation or anything. Because ub at 7 doesn't make much sense The top 6 were 1. Bowling Green 2.Akron 3. Ball state 4. Toledo 5. Ohio 6. Kent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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