Jump to content
Buffalo Bulls - UB Fan Forum
Sign in to follow this  
DooleyBull06

MAC Chain of Command

Recommended Posts

LOL 6th. 

The MAC comments on bashing Buffalo? Says the teams from nowhere parts of their states. 

What have you done for me lately? There should be way more precedence on the last 6-7 years. UB put the MAC back on the radar. 

I mean UB and Toledo should be flipped to me. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I like how Kent's review is basically "well it's a dump town, with a worse gym but hey... they'll take anybody whether they make grades or not!"

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Kevin said:

LOL 6th. 

The MAC comments on bashing Buffalo? Says the teams from nowhere parts of their states. 

What have you done for me lately? There should be way more precedence on the last 6-7 years. UB put the MAC back on the radar. 

I mean UB and Toledo should be flipped to me. 

Eh, I thought it was a fair assessment. We don't have a lot of tradition and the city has an undeserved rep. But it's still a region with a million+ people with a lot more options than Mt. Pleasant MI.  But overall, UB belongs more in a conference like the AAC than the MAC.

Edited by promotherobot

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think this article is relatively fair. But, I would think our recruiting base might be a little better than 10th though. 

Either way, this was a really cool, unbiased piece by Goodman. A guy who is actually high on Buffalo and praises the team. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Meh.  Most of the negatives for UB are borne out of the University historically not investing money in athletics (formerly due to SUNY rules, more recently due to administration).

Statistically as an institution of higher education, UB is a Big Ten or American Conference school.  Not a MAC school.  With the exception of UB, Miami, and Ohio, the MAC consists of academically middling regional 2nd and 3rd tier publics.  

UB's peer institutions are schools like Michigan, Rutgers, UCONN, Wisconsin, WVU, Pitt etc.  I'm not pulling this out of thin air. https://www.chronicle.com/interactives/peers-network

Keep in mind that data is from 2012 and UB has grown in size and improved measurable in academics since then.

Athletically, UB is a MAC school.  As an institution, it is not.  If there is ever an investment in athletics, the school could and should be in a larger conference simply due to the university profile.

In the latest WSJ/Higher Ed Times rankings of national public universities UB was #28.  25-30 went like:

25 - Penn State
26 - Virginia Tech
27 - Minnesota
28 - Buffalo
29 - Illinois - Chicago
30 - NC State

The only MAC school in the top 100 was Miami at #78

Edited by UBigbobby
  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think it is fair based on the factors given. But if all the current head coaches headed to different teams this season, I bet Ub would be a top 3 choice for all of the prospective new hires. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, UBigbobby said:

With the exception of UB, Miami, and Ohio, the MAC consists of academically middling regional 2nd and 3rd tier publics.  

In terms of ranking, Ohio is still 100ish spots lower than us (USNWR).  If we're comparing R&D, UB might be more than the rest of the MAC combined (NSF site is down unfortunately).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, rma said:

In terms of ranking, Ohio is still 100ish spots lower than us (USNWR).  If we're comparing R&D, UB might be more than the rest of the MAC combined (NSF site is down unfortunately).

Yea, but Ohio is a major research university.  They aren't amazing academically, but they're a major university center with like 27,000 students.  While they lag far behind UB in academics, in terms of overall profile, they're closer to UB than a directional Michigan or regional Ohio school like Kent or Akron.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi. Just want to add that Research universities are ranked as R1, "Highest Research Activity", or R2, "Higher Research Activity", by the Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Learning.  Agree that Ohio U is a large school, but is in a different category of research activity than UB.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_research_universities_in_the_United_States

 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I work at a Carnegie I university and can assure you that this distinction is a big deal. Schools work fiercely to attain and maintain their position in the top tier. UB is the only MAC school with this status.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

×