BrooklynBull Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 It seems like former UB Bulls just cannot wait to meet Zach Wilson. Malcom Koonce got in on the fun last night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue03 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Khalil Mack will be inducted into the UB hall of fame in 2024 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Blue03 said: Khalil Mack will be inducted into the UB hall of fame in 2024 Perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue03 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 10 hours ago, UBinMD said: Perfect Could’ve waited for the 52nd class, match his number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Blue03 said: Could’ve waited for the 52nd class, match his number Couldn’t have waited for 46th class for his college number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 When we retire his #46 officially, will it be painted on the track or..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
121Merrimac Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 … will a banner cover the zenith? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue03 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 43 minutes ago, UBinMD said: Couldn’t have waited for 46th class for his college number Ah yes I had them backwards, my mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue03 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, rma said: When we retire his #46 officially, will it be painted on the track or..... Would like the track to not be there for long 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Blue03 said: Would like the track to not be there for long I think we need a better product on the field before we talk about tracks and scoreboards. Let’s actually win something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGBull Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 2:16 PM, UBinMD said: I think we need a better product on the field before we talk about tracks and scoreboards. Let’s actually win something. I disagree, I think the track is a big deal. Part of recruiting is facilities. High school recruits want to play in a nice stadium, there are high school stadiums that are nice than ours 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBulls99 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 UB has more than enough money to make us a strong G5 team. They just choose not to. They’re building a $100 million engineering facility. I’m not saying they shouldn’t, but athletics can’t even get a damn scoreboard, and the return on athletics investment is better. Oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 6 hours ago, DaBulls99 said: UB has more than enough money to make us a strong G5 team. They just choose not to. They’re building a $100 million engineering facility. I’m not saying they shouldn’t, but athletics can’t even get a damn scoreboard, and the return on athletics investment is better. Oh well With $20,000,000.00 from one donor towards the construction. It should be 100% funded by the state, since it is for academics. Everything takes private money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, BrooklynBull said: With $20,000,000.00 from one donor towards the construction. It should be 100% funded by the state, since it is for academics. Everything takes private money. Yeah, what are they thinking building academic facilities at a university. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) On 12/9/2023 at 2:16 PM, UBinMD said: I think we need a better product on the field before we talk about tracks and scoreboards. Let’s actually win something. Since the stadium was built we went from FCS to FBS. Since the scoreboard was installed we won a conference championship, multiple division championships, had a first round NFL pick, had a running back nearly break the single game yards record, and a top 25 finish. We shouldn’t be punting on improving the stadium to at least a low level FBS experience because Mo Linguist can’t hire a competent offensive coordinator. ETA: Waiting for success to improve facilities is one of the reasons Nate Oats isn’t still here (outside of the whole multi-millions of dollars). Oats says I want a dedicated practice facility. Great! We have the triple gym which is much better than any other MAC facility. But you need a rec center for the students. Between university and/or SUNY bureaucracy it is 4 years later and last I checked there’s no student rec center being built. In fact, UB health services just opened up an office off north campus recently which makes me think this is not a priority for anybody right now. Edited December 11, 2023 by rma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGBull Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 27 minutes ago, rma said: Since the stadium was built we went from FCS to FBS. Since the scoreboard was installed we won a conference championship, multiple division championships, had a first round NFL pick, had a running back nearly break the single game yards record, and a top 25 finish. We shouldn’t be punting on improving the stadium to at least a low level FBS experience because Mo Linguist can’t hire a competent offensive coordinator. ETA: Waiting for success to improve facilities is one of the reasons Nate Oats isn’t still here (outside of the whole multi-millions of dollars). Oats says I want a dedicated practice facility. Great! We have the triple gym which is much better than any other MAC facility. But you need a rec center for the students. Between university and/or SUNY bureaucracy it is 4 years later and last I checked there’s no student rec center being built. In fact, UB health services just opened up an office off north campus recently which makes me think this is not a priority for anybody right now. Hit the nail on the head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue03 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, rma said: Since the stadium was built we went from FCS to FBS. Since the scoreboard was installed we won a conference championship, multiple division championships, had a first round NFL pick, had a running back nearly break the single game yards record, and a top 25 finish. We shouldn’t be punting on improving the stadium to at least a low level FBS experience because Mo Linguist can’t hire a competent offensive coordinator. ETA: Waiting for success to improve facilities is one of the reasons Nate Oats isn’t still here (outside of the whole multi-millions of dollars). Oats says I want a dedicated practice facility. Great! We have the triple gym which is much better than any other MAC facility. But you need a rec center for the students. Between university and/or SUNY bureaucracy it is 4 years later and last I checked there’s no student rec center being built. In fact, UB health services just opened up an office off north campus recently which makes me think this is not a priority for anybody right now. Heard from an engineering friend they might be (in the distant future) turning the bookstore into health services. Not sure if it’s true but that’s what I’ve heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB92 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 18 hours ago, DaBulls99 said: UB has more than enough money to make us a strong G5 team. They just choose not to. They’re building a $100 million engineering facility. I’m not saying they shouldn’t, but athletics can’t even get a damn scoreboard, and the return on athletics investment is better. Oh well Wait. The return on athletic investment is better? I don’t know the exact numbers, but I’d assume UB must lose millions on athletics. I suspect someone has a decent number on that. As others have said, private money will be the way to get athletics improvements. But that seems sort of unlikely and less likely each year as the landscape changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RapidsFan Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) . Edited February 18 by RapidsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capencaper Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, RapidsFan said: It's close to break-even, but I'm sure the $40 million/year could be better spent doing literally anything else When done right, athletics raises the profile of an institution which obviously is harder to quantify than dollars and cents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBulls99 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 11 hours ago, UBinMD said: Yeah, what are they thinking building academic facilities at a university. Like I said, it’s not one or the other. You can do both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RapidsFan Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) . Edited February 18 by RapidsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capencaper Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 43 minutes ago, RapidsFan said: So why not just get rid of football and increase the basketball budget Steve Lutz is Western Kentucky's new basketball coach, and they just beat UB handily the other day. His starting salary is $650,000. Halcovage only earns half that at UB. Not a good comparison IMO...Western Kentucky also has a football program, so it's not like they dropped football to pay their basketball coach more money. I get your point - if you're consistently good at any revenue sport then it raises the profile of an institution. But if I think of basketball focused schools (Gonzaga, Butler, VCU, etc.), maybe Gonzaga is the only school that is on par with the likes of UConn, Maryland, and Cincinnati ("2 sport" schools that UB could/should be similar to, for example) as far as name recognition and marketability, but only because of their history over the last 30 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, RapidsFan said: So why not just get rid of football and increase the basketball budget In theory you could do that, but in reality you have to find a new conference and add/change sports to comply with that conference's membership requirements. Schools that axe football also don't just give that money over to the other programs. When UB cut four sports in 2016 the school just lowered the subsidy given to athletics, and did not allocate that money to the other sports. UAB, after shutting down football in 2014 in a political hit job, reversed course and reinstated the football program despite the school's large subsidy to athletics. I went into detail here looking at other schools' decision to drop to FCS or drop football entirely. The end result is unless your team is bankrolled by Charles Koch your basketball program is not going to be more successful and will likely be less successful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RapidsFan Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) . Edited February 18 by RapidsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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