dutchcountry7 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) Let's hear your thoughts. Edit: Poll is anonymous by the way. Edited March 19, 2019 by dutchcountry7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBigbobby Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 This is a bad poll. Lots of binary choices that are NOT binary in reality. I will not vote in it unless you decide to re-write it in a non-biased way. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 20 minutes ago, UBigbobby said: This is a bad poll. Lots of binary choices that are NOT binary in reality. I will not vote in it unless you decide to re-write it in a non-biased way. Cool. Don't vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 What are your thoughts on UB playing an official game every year against a non-D1 team? Don’t really care much one way or the other. What do you think about the in-season home/home scheduled this year with Southern Illinois? This is the one that I actually could vote for. I’m fine with it as long as the team is supposed to be decent. How would you like to fill non-Major games on the schedule? I’d rather sub-200 teams than home and home against sub-200 teams. Do you understand that no major programs from the top conferences are going to come to Alumni Arena? No, I do not understand. Stanford came here this year and they are a major program. Otherwise, yes, Duke and UNC are not coming here. I’m not familiar with the last question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikescherrer8 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 The title of this should be changed to "POLL: Do you Share An Opinion Reflecting My Own Or Not?" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, rma said: I’d rather sub-200 teams than home and home against sub-200 teams. Those teams aren't sub-200 teams. It would be like scheduling Bowling Green, Central Michigan, or Northern Illinois. Good teams that can give you a game but not great teams. 8 minutes ago, rma said: No, I do not understand. Stanford came here this year and they are a major program. Otherwise, yes, Duke and UNC are not coming here. Women's basketball doesn't make money for schools and they don't have TV contracts like the men. Women's basketball is a completely different animal. It would be like saying "Seton Hall came to Alumni Arena this year for volleyball so I don't know why they wouldn't come for basketball." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) Scheduling is always an uphill battle for mid majors. We always have to cater to the big programs. Even if those big programs are the bottom feeders of their big conferences. They want games on their terms. So there are things we can do to circumvent this: 1) Get into these non conference tournaments. These are vital. They give us potentially 3 games against solid teams. That's 3 less games we have to schedule. For example next year we are in the Charleston Classic with a good field (hopefully we play some combo of Miami, Florida, Xavier and UCONN). In 2020 we will be in one too that Nate in an interview slipped up and referenced. In the past we played Cincy and one of the Dakota St schools (can't remember which one but they beat us and were a tournament team at season's end). Also these tournaments provide exposure in terms of recruiting and media attention. 2) We can't be afraid to go on the road to take on big schools. Think Wofford this season. They played numerous tournament teams on the road. The only reason they got Carolina at home was because Roy Williams was gracious enough to play a return game because Wofford beat UNC at UNC the season before. Imagine if Boeheim did that for us next season. Doubt he would. 3) The MAC has to establish a home and home conference versus conference series. This will help ease scheduling. Also its becoming a thing that most big conferences are doing. We have to keep up with the haves and not become a have not. That's both us as a program and as a conference. The MAC must step up. 4) We have to keep our local rivalries going. That means the Big 4 schools. Those games should all bring in high attendance numbers. 5) I don't like games against non D-1 schools. To me they are glorified scrimmages that don't provide valuable experience. I understand we schedule them just to get a home date. And I understand that they are pretty much guaranteed wins which is better than losing to a Q 2 or 3 team at home. But I don't like them. The less of them I see the better. 6) In season home and homes are cool. I dig them. They aren't something I would do every season but I like them. Perhaps we can use some foresight and schedule teams who are on the come up. I can't stress this enough...good mid majors can't be afraid to schedule other good mid majors. 7) When I attended UB we got Pitt and Rutgers to come to AA. I see no reason why we can't get a team like Northwestern, Penn St, or Temple to come in. Obviously we'd have to pay so then it becomes a money issue. So whats the answer, is it bringing in sub 200/non D-1 teams just for a home date or shelling out some cash to buy games? Maybe the answer is one season dish the cash then the next penny pinch. Those are just some thoughts. Our schedule this season was suppose to be better but WVU had a miserable season. St. Frances, PA failed to win their league. SIU underachieved and subsequently fired their coach. But the construction of the schedule to me was solid. Edited March 19, 2019 by DooleyBull06 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 What conference is the target for the conference series? The Missouri Valley? They just got dropped from their conference challenge with the Mountain West. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Option two in question three is confusing. Do you mean a home and home like Southern Illinois this year or alternating home games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 35 minutes ago, BrooklynBull said: Option two in question three is confusing. Do you mean a home and home like Southern Illinois this year or alternating home games? Either/or. Ideally alternating seasons home/homes would be scheduled but if only in-season home/home can be scheduled then it would. The question is basically: Would you be willing to give up a weak home game (likely Lemoyne) to get a game with a team that is at the top of a mid-major conference? 2018-2019 - give up one home game, go on the road to mid-major in contention for their conference championship 2019-20 - replace the game against the weak team with a trip to Alumni Arena by the mid-major in contention for their conference championship that UB visited the year before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB85 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Nice effort. But I too wanted to answer certain questions in a way that was not an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 23 minutes ago, UB85 said: Nice effort. But I too wanted to answer certain questions in a way that was not an option. If only where were somewhere to add comments... Ah well... Maybe some day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Bring back bracket busters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) 59 minutes ago, rma said: Bring back bracket busters That was interesting for the few years it lasted. Didn’t it also gaurantee a return game the following year? Edited March 20, 2019 by DooleyBull06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotherobot Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I'm fine with the preseason game against Daemen. But that's it for D-II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB05 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Is this a poll or another way to passive aggressively argue with people? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, DooleyBull06 said: That was interesting for the few years it lasted. Didn’t it also gaurantee a return game the following year? Yeah unless a snowstorm hits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 hours ago, DooleyBull06 said: 3 hours ago, rma said: Bring back bracket busters That was interesting for the few years it lasted. Didn’t it also gaurantee [sic] a return game the following year? It did require a game the following year. It was known as a budget buster within athletic departments and did not do what the name implied it would do. It just matched mid-majors against other mid-majors. To have done what the name implied it would have had mid-majors playing the big conferences to show what they could do against them and bust the bracket by giving extra spots to mid-majors in the tournament. Good riddance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull_trojan Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 In scheduling, it takes two to tango. The question to me would be are there good games that UB is saying NO to? I assume no. If that assumption is true, then there is little that can be done to improve scheduling outside of putting more money into it. At this point, I'd rather money be put into facilities. I'm OK with UB going 30+ wins against inferior opponents while still putting better and better UB teams on the court for a while until we get our facilities right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB92 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 21 hours ago, BrooklynBull said: It did require a game the following year. It was known as a budget buster within athletic departments and did not do what the name implied it would do. It just matched mid-majors against other mid-majors. To have done what the name implied it would have had mid-majors playing the big conferences to show what they could do against them and bust the bracket by giving extra spots to mid-majors in the tournament. Good riddance. Yeah...that bracket buster may have been good for the first five or so teams at the top, but then you had the all of the rest of the games. I imagine it was "budget buster" for most schools who got almost nothing out of it, except a February non-conference game that they had to travel to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 12 hours ago, UB92 said: Yeah...that bracket buster may have been good for the first five or so teams at the top, but then you had the all of the rest of the games. I imagine it was "budget buster" for most schools who got almost nothing out of it, except a February non-conference game that they had to travel to. That's wasn't why it died. ESPN took the rights to all the games. As TV rights expanded, some schools couldn't give the rights to ESPN, while other schools signed deals with ESPN for ESPN3 which meant ESPN already had rights to late season games for those bubble teams and had no incentive to work on the Bracket Buster. ESPN killed it. It wasn't the schools who overall were still willing to do it because it was good for their conferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) This is why no one would schedule us for a home/home starting in Buffalo this year. Every team believed that Oats would jump ship and a decimated UB team would go to their arena next year. Interestingly, that was the same reason no one would go to Southern Illinois for a game this year and they also had a change in Head Coach. I always suspected that Oats knew he was on his way out when he refused to do home/home agreements that started at someone else's place. Edited March 27, 2019 by dutchcountry7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 hours ago, dutchcountry7 said: I always suspected that Oats knew he was on his way out when he refused to do home/home agreements that started at someone else's place. Why would he not want a home game this past year with the senior class we had? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 So do we have to wait till a first round matchup in the big dance to beat Alabama’s ass too like we did ASU? You think now that he’s mister P5 he could schedule us at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, rma said: Why would he not want a home game this past year with the senior class we had? If you’re “building the next Gonzaga” you make the long term investments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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