Tee4three Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 26 minutes ago, DooleyBull06 said: I kinda disagree. Right now if the season ended our path would be Ball St then Kent state. Given we beat ball state and lost somewhat close games to Kent I rather that path then Toledo right off the bat. Idk, you’re right in the sense that confidence regardless who we play is low. But playing Ball to open gives a glimmer of hope. Right now if the season ended today our path is optimal in my opinion Ball state first - beat them already and they don't play a style that will physically wear your team down in a tournament Kent st next - slow pace but very physical - which to me is a better round 2 game than a Toledo team that will run up and down the court tiring out the legs or an Akron team that seems to wipe the floor with UB this season On the other side you have Toledo/Akron/Ohio - playing Toledo late in a tournament is better than early, and maybe Ohio upsets Akron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird96 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Overnight ESPN’s matchup predictor for UB @ Toledo reduced our chances of winning from 14% to 8%. I guess they weren’t impressed with UB’s domination over CMU, or more likely they were very impressed with Toledo’s performance vs Akron. All we can do is hope for the same effort as the first matchup and maybe a little luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bluebird96 said: Overnight ESPN’s matchup predictor for UB @ Toledo reduced our chances of winning from 14% to 8%. I guess they weren’t impressed with UB’s domination over CMU, or more likely they were very impressed with Toledo’s performance vs Akron. All we can do is hope for the same effort as the first matchup and maybe a little luck I think JW hit the nail on the head in his post game interview and I really hope the staff can really get these guys to understand it and buy into it. Doing well on Defense, feeds the Offense. That could be fast break points, that could be confidence by playing solid on the one end to carry to the other end (see Isaiah Adams last night, I believe his good O was a result of his solid D). If you can get stops it takes the pressure off to make crazy offensive plays possession after possession. You can really do a lot to help yourself just by playing solid defense and making the other team work. If they have to work on Offense, most teams tend to get lazy on Defense over the duration of a game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird96 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 27 minutes ago, UBinMD said: I think JW hit the nail on the head in his post game interview and I really hope the staff can really get these guys to understand it and buy into it. Doing well on Defense, feeds the Offense. That could be fast break points, that could be confidence by playing solid on the one end to carry to the other end (see Isaiah Adams last night, I believe his good O was a result of his solid D). If you can get stops it takes the pressure off to make crazy offensive plays possession after possession. You can really do a lot to help yourself just by playing solid defense and making the other team work. If they have to work on Offense, most teams tend to get lazy on Defense over the duration of a game. Agree, hopefully the defensive mentality will start to sink in. But Toledo is such a force offensively that it’ll be tough for UB not to get caught up in their usual mindset of pushing the tempo which often leads to a lot of sloppy turnovers with this year’s squad especially vs top notch opponents. Also need a little more luck with our shooting than recently, and get guys like Powell and Jones to the line as much as possible. Though that doesn’t seem to be a strength of Curtis’ game….when he gets to the line he’s a decent (77%) shooter but doesn’t get there often enough (only 65 attempts vs 114 for Zid, 100 for Foster and 85 for Hardnett) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird96 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) Not many intriguing matchups in the MAC today with a lot of double digit point spreads including UB @ TOL (-11.5). Would be nice if UB could pull off the upset or at least stay in the 6 spot with an NIU loss @ CMU. Bulls can clinch a spot in Cleveland if BG, EMU and M-OH lose. Consolation prize for this up and down season. If UB can hang onto the 6, they would be exactly where MAC coaches picked them to finish in the pre-season poll. Edited February 25, 2023 by Bluebird96 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Bluebird96 said: Not many intriguing matchups in the MAC today with a lot of double digit point spreads including UB @ TOL (-11.5). Would be nice if UB could pull off the upset or at least stay in the 6 spot with an NIU loss @ CMU. Bulls can clinch a spot in Cleveland if BG, EMU and M-OH lose. Consolation prize for this up and down season. If UB can hang onto the 6, they would be exactly where MAC coaches picked them to finish in the pre-season poll. I was thinking 10-8 at the beginning of the year. It is looking like 9-9 is more realistic. So from that perspective they fell a little short of my expectations. In addition to the record, I was looking for the Bulls showing they could compete in Cleveland. The game today in Toledo gives them one more shot at showing progress toward that, a win would give them a record of 3-6 against top 5 teams. While a loss today is probably not critical from seeding perspective, from a confidence perspective, it is critical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird96 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) M-OH crushed Ohio and NIU running away from CMU. So UB looks to be headed back to the 7 slot with a 2-game edge over MOH currently in 9th. The way the Bulls have looked today, would it surprise anyone if we go 0-3 down the stretch and miss out on Cleveland entirely? Would be great to have the men surprise us once in a while like the women did today in knocking down BGSU who was in a 3-way tie atop the MAC at 13-2 coming into today, on their home court no less. Edited February 26, 2023 by Bluebird96 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 Not a MAC game but did anyone just see the ASU Arizona finish? Half court buzzer beater nothing but net for ASU. May have just gotten them to the dance with that shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird96 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, DooleyBull06 said: Not a MAC game but did anyone just see the ASU Arizona finish? Half court buzzer beater nothing but net for ASU. May have just gotten them to the dance with that shot. Just saw it on the highlights. Unbelievable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted February 26, 2023 Author Share Posted February 26, 2023 The game against NIU is a must win. Or else we will be the 7 seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue03 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Not sure if I even want to win against NIU tonight. Like yeah I always want to win and guarantee a spot in Cleveland, but I can’t stand getting smacked by Akron again this season, I’d rather draw Kent, kept that a close game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Curious what tie breakers are for 8 seed If Bulls beat MOH, BGSU(@Ohio), EMU (@NIU) or CMU (@WMU) all could have a chance to get to a tie with MOH at 6-12. I wonder if EMU could still sneak in there and cause havoc in Cleveland. I am not curious enough to research though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 For those trying to figure out tiebreakers, this is the link to the procedure from the MAC's website: https://getsomemaction.com/sports/2023/2/24/BSK_0224232059.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 My predicted seedings are Toledo Kent Akron Ball St Ohio Buffalo NIU CMU I think Akron is our Thanos this year, sorry to say, but maybe @UBinMD has it right - it was all a ploy! Thanos was defeated in the end, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Big article in The New York Tines today on Bates. May be behind a paywall. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/02/sports/ncaabasketball/emoni-bates-nba-basketball.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1ubP1fanaticM7 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 On 3/1/2023 at 1:29 PM, DocCas86 said: My predicted seedings are Toledo Kent Akron Ball St Ohio Buffalo NIU CMU I think Akron is our Thanos this year, sorry to say, but maybe @UBinMD has it right - it was all a ploy! Thanos was defeated in the end, right? I’m thinking: 1. Kent St 2. Toledo 3. Akron 4. Ball St 5. Ohio 6. Buffalo 7. N Illinois 8. Miami OH Semis Ohio v Kent St Akron v Toledo Championship Akron v Kent St Champion Akron It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out. I’m never right! Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue03 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 54 minutes ago, C1ubP1fanaticM7 said: I’m thinking: 1. Kent St 2. Toledo 3. Akron 4. Ball St 5. Ohio 6. Buffalo 7. N Illinois 8. Miami OH Semis Ohio v Kent St Akron v Toledo Championship Akron v Kent St Champion Akron It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out. I’m never right! Haha I like this, but I’ll take Toledo in the semis. Kent vs Toledo final, and I think Toledo will get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird96 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) NIU knocked EMU out of the Cleveland picture, 85-66. Bates shot just 3/14 with 6 pts. See how much those kinds of performances on a losing team have hurt his draft stock. Shot under 30% from the field in 8 of 18 MAC games. Not exactly awe-inspiring results vs middle of the road competition. Edited March 3, 2023 by Bluebird96 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bluebird96 said: NIU knocked EMU out of the Cleveland picture, 85-66. Bates shot just 3/14 with 6 pts. See how much those kinds of performances on a losing team have hurt his draft stock. Shot under 30% from the field in 8 of 18 MAC games. Not exactly awe-inspiring results vs middle of the road competition. So we will either be a 6 or 7 seed. Akron currently losing to Kent. Which would lock Akron into the 3 seed. Interesting that the top 4 teams are playing each other right now. Semi final preview dare I say? Edited March 4, 2023 by DooleyBull06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1ubP1fanaticM7 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 8 hours ago, Blue03 said: I like this, but I’ll take Toledo in the semis. Kent vs Toledo final, and I think Toledo will get it done. Looks like I’m already wrong. Toledo with a nice win on the road. They are hot. They’ll be tough to beat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 4, 2023 Author Share Posted March 4, 2023 Zero tournament appearances lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird96 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Kent beats Akron. Carry with a huge game. Not sure we’d rather face him in Cleveland over the Zips. Not sure it’s gonna matter but the Bulls might as well show up and see what happens, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Would have much preferred the other side of the MAC tournament bracket. The 5 seed Ohio certainly have a path through Ball State and Toledo who always chokes in Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird96 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Chet said: Would have much preferred the other side of the MAC tournament bracket. The 5 seed Ohio certainly have a path through Ball State and Toledo who always chokes in Cleveland. Yeah, just 1 more win and we might be in Ohio’s shoes. Given how low the expectations are for UB right now, maybe the best way to approach Akron is to just play aggressive and let the chips fall where they may. Maybe we get hot and hope that Castaneda stays as cold as he was tonight vs Kent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBulls99 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Bowling Green fired Huger. Had 2 years left on his contract. Their best team ran into our 18-19 team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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