Bluebird96 Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, Bluebird96 said: I realize Clingan (7’2/265) on UCONN is a little bigger than Jack (6’11/250), but it would be awesome if Jack could become that kind of force on D blocking and altering shots. What a difference maker he was Monday night. Actually looking at Clingan’s stat line from the championship game, it’s less impressive than it seemed watching the game….just 4 pts, 3 reb’s, 1 block in 10 minutes played. Pretty decent #’s when projected to 40:00. And just a freshman like Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsbball Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 1 hour ago, UBinMD said: With the right coaching, Jack could become a big problem in the MAC. Looking forward to seeing him develop. I was very impressed with Jack early in the season, especially his post play. But he seemed to get himself in a lot of foul trouble especially in important games. Probably trying too hard. In the 5 games he fouled out, he averaged only 16 minutes. As I've said before, I really didn't see many set players under Whitesell to try and get him the ball more inside. I hope he stays and the coaches can work on him. He's still young and has a lot of potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue32 Posted April 6, 2023 Author Share Posted April 6, 2023 Jack to the portal. I didn’t want to rain on the Jack love but it felt like he wasn’t going to be a fit if Halcovage runs his offense like Nova. They’re similar to McCollum’s offenses in that they value skill and shooting over size. Best of luck to him 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasketBull Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 I appreciate that Jack waited to assess where he fits with the new staff before making his decision. I wish him the best of luck and hope he finds success. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 One way to look at is, gut the whole thing and start new. Part of Whitesell’s problem was that he was trying to fit square pieces in round holes. The quicker Halcovage can bring in his style player the sooner we will be good. While this is another gut punch, it’s not completely unexpected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabulls Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 It could be simply that Halcovage told Jack that he may not be a right fit, especially with the timing. @DooleyBull06 may be right, the quicker coach gets “his” types of guys here. The sooner we will be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Just now, Dabulls said: It could be simply that Halcovage told Jack that he may not be a right fit, especially with the timing. @DooleyBull06 may be right, the quicker coach gets “his” types of guys here. The sooner we will be good Absolutely. And this goes to the point @BasketBull made. Jack waited, sure they had a convo or two and it was a mutual split. Wish Jack the best. He could become a very useful player for some team. Will be interesting to see where he lands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Would much rather have seen a post about a player leaving the portal to come back Having to re work the entire roster is no easy task Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue32 Posted April 6, 2023 Author Share Posted April 6, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tee4three said: Would much rather have seen a post about a player leaving the portal to come back Having to re work the entire roster is no easy task In today's day and age it's definitely easier than having to overhaul your scheme to fit the players. There are only a few players from last year's team that I envision having roles on a winning team next year, Curtis Jones, Isaiah Adams, and LaQuill Hardnett. Maybe Jo Smith as a backup big, but he has the same non-shooting issue as Jack (although he flashed a little bit of a mid range game). Those guys can fit with mostly anyone I think. They're not high usage guys who need the ball, they shoot and they also defend. Other than that I can take or leave most of the guys on the roster. Let Halcovage get his guys in Edited April 6, 2023 by trueblue32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB65Son Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Is the whole team in portal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majortomxiii Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 2 hours ago, trueblue32 said: Jack to the portal. I didn’t want to rain on the Jack love but it felt like he wasn’t going to be a fit if Halcovage runs his offense like Nova. They’re similar to McCollum’s offenses in that they value skill and shooting over size. Best of luck to him As long as he does not end up in the MAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Majortomxiii said: As long as he does not end up in the MAC. I guarantee MAC schools will reach out to Jack. He is a good player with high upside in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue32 Posted April 6, 2023 Author Share Posted April 6, 2023 27 minutes ago, UBinMD said: A little surprised if he wouldn't have wanted Jack, Villanova has bigs, but maybe Jack didn't like the prospect of his contribution level under the new coach. Every team has bigs. It doesn't matter if you're big if the offense is predicated around the bigs being able to shoot. Villanova's center is 6'8" and shoots 39.6% from 3. Since Halcovage started as an assistant in 2017 there was only one contributor who didn't make at least 10 3s on the season. By comparison UB has had 7 such contributors in the same time span https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&year_min=2018&year_max=2023&class_is_fr=Y&class_is_so=Y&class_is_jr=Y&class_is_sr=Y&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_c=Y&school_id=villanova&games_type=A&c1stat=mp_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=15&c2stat=g&c2comp=gt&c2val=15&c3comp=gt&c4comp=gt&order_by=fg3 I expect everyone he brings in to be a capable to proficient 3 point shooter which will be a different approach than we have had in recent years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, trueblue32 said: Every team has bigs. It doesn't matter if you're big if the offense is predicated around the bigs being able to shoot. Villanova's center is 6'8" and shoots 39.6% from 3. Since Halcovage started as an assistant in 2017 there was only one contributor who didn't make at least 10 3s on the season. By comparison UB has had 7 such contributors in the same time span https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&year_min=2018&year_max=2023&class_is_fr=Y&class_is_so=Y&class_is_jr=Y&class_is_sr=Y&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_c=Y&school_id=villanova&games_type=A&c1stat=mp_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=15&c2stat=g&c2comp=gt&c2val=15&c3comp=gt&c4comp=gt&order_by=fg3 I expect everyone he brings in to be a capable to proficient 3 point shooter which will be a different approach than we have had in recent years. Great analysis and breakdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubbullsfan09 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 To be honest I think UB fans were overrating Isaac Jack a little. Not a huge loss, I think Jo Smith was a better big man anyways even if he isn’t as strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Just now, Ubbullsfan09 said: To be honest I think UB fans were overrating Isaac Jack a little. Not a huge loss, I think Jo Smith was a better big man anyways even if he isn’t as strong I think both players have different skill sets. Jack is more of a low post finesse player. Soft hands with low post moves. Smith is more of the low post banger. No real offense skill set other than doing dirty work around the rim. Better defender is Smith and probably more athletic. But Jack is younger with more growth potential. Again two different types of bigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue32 Posted April 6, 2023 Author Share Posted April 6, 2023 Hardnett is visiting Arkansas State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 hour ago, trueblue32 said: Hardnett is visiting Arkansas State Hope he gets wear he wants. I guess we will see if BH can coach him better than JW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skrabukes Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 35 minutes ago, UBinMD said: Hope he gets wear he wants. I guess we will see if BH can coach him better than JW He played pretty well this year since he was finally relatively healthy, but if he goes to ASU Coach BH is king and JW is clearly a bum. Got ya. Wherever he goes, I'll be rooting for him (unless it's MAC, but doubt it would be). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, skrabukes said: He played pretty well this year since he was finally relatively healthy, but if he goes to ASU Coach BH is king and JW is clearly a bum. Got ya. Wherever he goes, I'll be rooting for him (unless it's MAC, but doubt it would be). I think I’m just ready for a reset, I was hoping some of our guys would stick, but maybe it’s just better to leave it in the past and let the new coach bring in everything new and start fresh. Also, if you have followed any of my posts, I would be the last one to call BH the king of anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Vanderbilt will come to visit with 6’11 C Isaac Jack who entered the transfer portal from Buffalo after a strong Freshman season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ub2019 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Hardnett to Ark St 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, ub2019 said: Hardnett to Ark St Not surprising, JW did a lot for him and believed in him, not surprising to see him go to a familiar face. Wish him the best, he had a solid year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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