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47 minutes ago, ChubbyHubby said:

Cut football, add LAX, and get the same 50-100 people in the stands that we have for soccer.   This is in no way disrespectful to the soccer student-ahtletes.  It's just a fact that it doesn't draw many fans, and LAX likely wouldn't either.

Of course it wouldn't draw fans.  I never said it would.  But it would be a competitive team.  Buffalo recruits students from WNY and Long Island which are two areas that are good at LAX.

UB has to add a men's team if they drop football.  Right now they are at the D1 minimum number of sports.  So they would be adding a sport that wouldn't blow through money like football does and would be competitive.

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18 minutes ago, dutchcountry7 said:

Buffalo recruits students from WNY and Long Island which are two areas that are good at LAX.

Canisius and Niagara are in a decent hockey recruiting area, you can't tell that by the teams they produce.

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4 hours ago, rma said:

Canisius and Niagara are in a decent hockey recruiting area, you can't tell that by the teams they produce.

Except for the fact that they aren't state flagships and they are low budget schools.  Not to mention the fact that upstate NY is filled with college hockey teams.

I am not saying that UB LAX would be as good as Albany.  I am simply saying that it would be more successful nationally than if UB added ice hockey, baseball, or soccer.  And it doesn't cost too much for a program. 

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2 hours ago, dutchcountry7 said:

Except for the fact that they aren't state flagships and they are low budget schools.  Not to mention the fact that upstate NY is filled with college hockey teams.

I am not saying that UB LAX would be as good as Albany.  I am simply saying that it would be more successful nationally than if UB added ice hockey, baseball, or soccer.  And it doesn't cost too much for a program. 

LAX is cheaper to do than hockey. 

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Valparaiso (1995-96 thru 1999-00)

During Run:

  • Record: 111-50 (68.94%)
  • NCAA Appearances: 5
  • NCAA record: 2-5
  • Coaches:
    • Homer Drew
  • Attendance
    • Average: 3,939
    • Increase over period: 3.94%

Five years after the Run:

  • Record: 102-56 (64.56%)
  • NCAA Appearances: 2
  • NCAA record: 0-2
  • Coaches:
    • Scott Drew, replaced Homer Drew who resigned
    • Homer Drew, returned to coach after Scott Drew left after 1 year to coach at Baylor 
  • Attendance
    • Average: 4,263
    • Increase over previous 5 year period: 8.21%

Overall

  • Facility upgrade 
    • Arena: none
    • Practice Facility: none
  • Conference Change
    • From Mid Continent to the Horizon league in 2007-08 (12 years after the start of their run)
    • From Horizon league to Missouri Valley in 2017-18 (22 years after the start of their run)
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I had brought up this recording of our 1993 home game with UMASS up in another thread. There were great quotes from Calipari post-game that would fit in how, he as an A-10 coach, saw UB's potential to grow as a program starting at the 1 hour 57 mark:

https://soundcloud.com/user-125347718/umass-buffalo-02181993

Calipari, "How about Buffalo in the Atlantic 10?"

He nailed it. Not a lot of $ support for over a decade, the Big A a nice building with nice upgrades over 30 seasons of D1, and we draw when successful. The America East wouldn't accept us but Calipari would! But at that time we had only just moved FB from D3 to 1AA, football was just a minor factor until a MAC invite 2 years later changed that.

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On 3/15/2019 at 12:38 AM, bull_trojan said:

Valparaiso (1995-96 thru 1999-00)

During Run:

  • Record: 111-50 (68.94%)
  • NCAA Appearances: 5
  • NCAA record: 2-5
  • Coaches:
    • Homer Drew
  • Attendance
    • Average: 3,939
    • Increase over period: 3.94%

Five years after the Run:

  • Record: 102-56 (64.56%)
  • NCAA Appearances: 2
  • NCAA record: 0-2
  • Coaches:
    • Scott Drew, replaced Homer Drew who resigned
    • Homer Drew, returned to coach after Scott Drew left after 1 year to coach at Baylor 
  • Attendance
    • Average: 4,263
    • Increase over previous 5 year period: 8.21%

Overall

  • Facility upgrade 
    • Arena: none
    • Practice Facility: none
  • Conference Change
    • From Mid Continent to the Horizon league in 2007-08 (12 years after the start of their run)
    • From Horizon league to Missouri Valley in 2017-18 (22 years after the start of their run)

Another example is George Mason which shows that a single deep run in the tourney doesn’t lead to much more than an upset win over Maryland a few years later.

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