promotherobot Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, skrabukes said: Gotta make it to the tournament first. Did they change the rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird96 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 More shots for Boldin, please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Big possession out of the time out here, let's get a basket and make Toledo sweat a bit more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skrabukes Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, promotherobot said: Did they change the rules? Only top 8 go. Been that way for a couple years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird96 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Missing 3 of our last 4 FTs is a killer including Fulcher’s front end of the 1 and 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyjee Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) Okay if we don't win after that missed dunk... That's something that normally happens to us 😅 e: Needed that Chatman three or for Jo to finish the OREB. Good effort tonight though, can't take that away from them. Build on it. Edited January 17 by eyjee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Moral victories vs Toledo are an absolute joke. We stink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird96 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Signs of improvement. Defense was better until late as Toledo still almost scored 80. Same old refrain with the 3-pt (24%) and FT (54%) shooting. To make up for their other shortcomings, UB needs to shoot the lights out to have a chance against the better teams (ok, against almost every team). So far that hasn’t happened even once in 17 games. On to the next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, DocCas86 said: Hey @UBinMD do I say my announcer line about first four minutes of the second half? The team played well for 20 minutes, can they find a way to play solid 40 minutes? I was stunned to be tied at half. Overall a solid effort and improvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 ESPN+ play by play man said Halcovage would take out Coach Wright's dogs for him. Seems like a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCommish Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Does anyone think we'll need big NLI to keep Boldin and Sabol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuchMany Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TheCommish said: Does anyone think we'll need big NLI to keep Boldin and Sabol? This must be a very important post because 8 posts in 19 years is legendary. Edited January 17 by MuchMany 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCommish Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, MuchMany said: This must be a very important post because 8 posts in 19 years is legendary. Yes, the board was very toxic during the BullsEye era. I'll try to keep up and average almost a post per day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuchMany Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, TheCommish said: Yes, the board was very toxic during the BullsEye era. I'll try to keep up and average almost a post per day. Better than a post every 700 days! Welcome back, interesting time to talk UB sports for sure. I hope we don't need any NIL for these freshmen because we don't have any. We should be able to hold Sabol but Boldin is doubtful imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enrique14150 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I have nothing bad to say about this game, considering where they're at so far, except that they fizzled down the stretch. I didn't think they had it in them, but they kept answering Toledo all second half. There was an overall greater level of intensity and competitiveness tonight. It hurts to lose it late but they played with confidence. Baby steps. Adams - he's been lackluster lately so he really stepped up tonight. Chatman - as I keep saying, he scores a lot of points but seems to miss shots at the worst possible times in the game. Fulcher - is getting better at using his speed to get to the net Sabol - he made some fired up plays defensively, which is a good development Boldin - plays big If they play like this they can beat some teams near the bottom of the league. There are plenty of times where they deserve our criticism - going on the road and playing Toledo even until the last 5 minutes or so isn't one of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCommish Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, MuchMany said: Better than a post every 700 days! Welcome back, interesting time to talk UB sports for sure. I hope we don't need any NIL for these freshmen because we don't have any. We should be able to hold Sabol but Boldin is doubtful imo. I have a feeling Boldin won't be back IMO. Unfortunately, this reminds me a lot of the era of Arkeilpane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 7 hours ago, MuchMany said: Better than a post every 700 days! Welcome back, interesting time to talk UB sports for sure. I hope we don't need any NIL for these freshmen because we don't have any. We should be able to hold Sabol but Boldin is doubtful imo. I had heard our players get in the neighborhood of $10k each. Jack left for Dayton for ~$75k to warm the bench on a winning team. CuJo got $100k + a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 7 hours ago, enrique14150 said: I have nothing bad to say about this game, considering where they're at so far, except that they fizzled down the stretch. I didn't think they had it in them, but they kept answering Toledo all second half. There was an overall greater level of intensity and competitiveness tonight. It hurts to lose it late but they played with confidence. Baby steps. Adams - he's been lackluster lately so he really stepped up tonight. Chatman - as I keep saying, he scores a lot of points but seems to miss shots at the worst possible times in the game. Fulcher - is getting better at using his speed to get to the net Sabol - he made some fired up plays defensively, which is a good development Boldin - plays big If they play like this they can beat some teams near the bottom of the league. There are plenty of times where they deserve our criticism - going on the road and playing Toledo even until the last 5 minutes or so isn't one of them. The best part of today was the lack of a complete collapse to start the 2nd half. That was good to see and we kept answering up to the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 9 hours ago, Bluebird96 said: Signs of improvement. Defense was better until late as Toledo still almost scored 80. Same old refrain with the 3-pt (24%) and FT (54%) shooting. To make up for their other shortcomings, UB needs to shoot the lights out to have a chance against the better teams (ok, against almost every team). So far that hasn’t happened even once in 17 games. On to the next. Statistically, UB limited Toledo to their lowest points per possession in MAC play, so credit to the defensive effort. Offense in general, and 3pt shooting in particular, continues to be a problem. There were individual signs for optimism, last night it was Adams. The team needs more consistent play as a team. Ball St. has been near the bottom defensively in MAC play, maybe that will be thea game to build some consistency on offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 9 hours ago, TheCommish said: Does anyone think we'll need big NLI to keep Boldin and Sabol? I would assume at least with boldin he is more about playing time and opportunity and getting proper or good coaching and even opportunity to play professionally vs money in school I can't imagine say 50k for himself or his family really moves the needle This is actually an interesting thought on recruiting going forward "the psychology of recruiting in the NIL era" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 12 hours ago, TheCommish said: Does anyone think we'll need big NLI to keep Boldin and Sabol? I do not think either player is ready for a step up in college basketball. Remember jumping into the portal is as much about wanting NIL as it is having schools interested in investing in paying you. And while I like them as prospects they are no where near ready for a jump. I think the eventual outcome is a transfer but not after this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue32 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) Amongst freshmen playing at least 30% of their teams minutes Sabol and Boldin rank 140th and 157th respectively in PRPG! (Offensive rating adjusted for usage and quality of competition). People are overestimating the demand for the 6th and 7th leading scorers on a 2-15 team. I like them as pieces for the future but I don't see a bunch of high major schools kicking down their doors. Maybe they leave if they want to play a smaller role on a mid/low major that could win their conference, but I don't think we're gonna lose them in a bidding war to a P5 unless they light the world on fire in the last ~15 games https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?link=y&minGP=15&yvalue=Fr&year=2024&minmin=30&start=20231101&end=20240501 Edited January 17 by trueblue32 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyjee Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 14 hours ago, TheCommish said: Does anyone think we'll need big NLI to keep Boldin and Sabol? I think if we keep Boldin and Sabol that's a great look for GH3. At the same time if we lose one or both of them, it's not something I'd place solely on GH3 because it's the nature of college sports and the mid-major life right now. Normally, I'd say it's a bit unfair to give someone credit but not place the blame on them if it goes the other way, so I see the fault in my logic in this. My best guess as it stands now is Boldin will be gone and Sabol will be here for another year, have a Curtis Jones type sophomore season, and then transfer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skrabukes Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 10 minutes ago, eyjee said: I think if we keep Boldin and Sabol that's a great look for GH3. At the same time if we lose one or both of them, it's not something I'd place solely on GH3 because it's the nature of college sports and the mid-major life right now. Normally, I'd say it's a bit unfair to give someone credit but not place the blame on them if it goes the other way, so I see the fault in my logic in this. My best guess as it stands now is Boldin will be gone and Sabol will be here for another year, have a Curtis Jones type sophomore season, and then transfer. So what would that leave us for next year? A very lean roster, much worse than this year's...scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue32 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) Last year there were 47 mid-major freshmen guards (6'5" and under), that played 50% of team mins and posted a PRPG! of 1.0 or worse. 8 are playing at a new school this year: -Javon Bennett: Merrimack -> Dayton -Reggie Bass: CMU -> Kent -Tony Felder: VMI -> Stonehill -Trey Miller: Incarnate Word (coach fired) -> Southern Illinois -Jason Nelson: Richmond -> VCU -Jalen Jackson: UIC -> Purdue Fort-Wayne -Asher Woods: VMI -> Tulane -Di'Andre Howell-South: St. Francis NY (shutdown athletic department) -> Wagner Javon Bennett is the only one who stepped up to a program/conference clearly above UB and while he isn't a scorer he's a special case, as true PG who was 2nd in the country in steal rate as a freshman. Not a big market for the Boldin/Sabol profile. If they leave that is much more of an indictment on the program under Halcovage than them getting offers they can't turn down https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?link=y&sIndex=11&maxht=77&yvalue=Fr&cvalue=Mid&year=2023&minmin=50&start=20221101&end=20230501&minppg=1&ppgSelect=-1 Edited January 17 by trueblue32 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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