squire17 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, clodney said: Instead of telling everyone to ignore them, can we please just put a disclaimer on all of their posts that says, "NOTE: This poster has no affiliation with UB and received the highest of educations from Canisius College". That way anyone lurking won't think our fans are complete idiots. With apologies to the Bard, that poster is “an ignoramus, who spins his views, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” Please don’t lump us (CC grads) all together. Edited March 27, 2023 by squire17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ub2019 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1ubP1fanaticM7 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, ub2019 said: I wonder what that means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeseph Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, C1ubP1fanaticM7 said: I wonder what that means? They're asking somebody to come in and build a monster and offering/showing no support for them to build it with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everlast2504 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, C1ubP1fanaticM7 said: I wonder what that means? ADMA say Natty or bust. The coach is then handed a racked of natty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, C1ubP1fanaticM7 said: I wonder what that means? I was just told: Calhoun declined for NIL budget reasons Cohen declined as he was looking for a longer contract than the original length discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yussi1870 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Kevin said: I was just told: Calhoun declined for NIL budget reasons Cohen declined as he was looking for a longer contract than the original length discussed. Longer contract seems easily solved. Are we playing hardball unnecessarily? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBfan44 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just now, Kevin said: I was just told: Calhoun declined for NIL budget reasons Cohen declined as he was looking for a longer contract than the original length discussed. If losing Cohen was due to a contract length dispute than I’m flabbergasted, and I dont see how Alnutt continues to have anyone’s vote of confidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just now, yussi1870 said: Longer contract seems easily solved. Are we playing hardball unnecessarily? Not sure, but it seems like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ub2019 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Kevin said: Not sure, but it seems like it. How much is Alnutt hamstrung by Tripathi/SUNY budget wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBulls99 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 SUNY has restrictions on contract lengths. Not sure what that is, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, ub2019 said: How much is Alnutt hamstrung by Tripathi/SUNY budget wise? I would assume, a lot. Factor in the 100k early extra fee on top of whatever the fee already is + search firm fees. Burke got 5 years and 250k - so 1.25M Assuming UB is handing out 5 for 250k or 3 years for 400k or 1.25m to start with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalobonnie Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 On behalf of the UB board trolls association, I would like to apologize for UB Horns. He does not represent our group. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, DaBulls99 said: SUNY has restrictions on contract lengths. Not sure what that is, though. Well Burke got 5. Whitesell had a 5 year deal and added an extra year and money for really no reason. He was signed through 2025 season. Whitesell's fee: $600,000 if fired between April 6, 2021 through April 5, 2022 $500,000 if fired between April 6, 2022 through April 5, 2023 $400,000 if fired between April 6, 2023 through April 5, 2024 $300,000 if fired between April 6, 2024 through April 5, 2025 Alnutt got in his own way though too, a 500K fee, should have been 400k at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuchMany Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Talked to someone in the department this afternoon. They're projecting confidence and saying the "news" that has come out isn't necessarily true. Sounds like family considerations factored heavily in Cohen's decision, unfortunately. Still no idea why we're hearing about candidates declining and not just "Coach X has been hired" when it's finalized. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabulls Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 I’m still optimistic but disappointed. There’s ton of great talent out there and young coaches looking for opportunities. Just hate that this has to drag out for longer than normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabulls Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, MuchMany said: Talked to someone in the department this afternoon. They're projecting confidence and saying the "news" that has come out isn't necessarily true. Sounds like family considerations factored heavily in Cohen's decision, unfortunately. Still no idea why we're hearing about candidates declining and not just "Coach X has been hired" when it's finalized. Wonder if they could be like “hey I know you don’t like the length of contract, but you can earn an extension if you/team perform well”. If it is due to NIL or lack of resources there’s not much you could say to that other than being optimistic that those resources will be available in the near future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dabulls said: I’m still optimistic but disappointed. There’s ton of great talent out there and young coaches looking for opportunities. Just hate that this has to drag out for longer than normal It’s become the UB way. In the end we will end up with Whitesell again bc he can keep players from transferring. Stop me if this sounds familiar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuchMany Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dabulls said: Wonder if they could be like “hey I know you don’t like the length of contract, but you can earn an extension if you/team perform well”. If it is due to NIL or lack of resources there’s not much you could say to that other than being optimistic that those resources will be available in the near future I have no idea what the contract length thing is about, wasn't discussed at all. Can't see the contract ever being three or six years, so would it really come down to four vs five? I'd hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabulls Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, MuchMany said: I have no idea what the contract length thing is about, wasn't discussed at all. Can't see the contract ever being three or six years, so would it really come down to four vs five? I'd hope not. Think @Kevin mentioned something about contract length playing a role. Sorry for the confusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 24 minutes ago, Kevin said: Calhoun declined for NIL budget reasons Okay enjoy the NIL budget at Youngstown State 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeseph Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, MuchMany said: I have no idea what the contract length thing is about, wasn't discussed at all. Can't see the contract ever being three or six years, so would it really come down to four vs five? I'd hope not. This all seems weird. I can't imagine Cohen genuinely plans to be here for more than 3-5 years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DooleyBull06 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, MuchMany said: I have no idea what the contract length thing is about, wasn't discussed at all. Can't see the contract ever being three or six years, so would it really come down to four vs five? I'd hope not. Contracts should be no shorter than 5 years. Reason being, you have to give a coach a full player cycle to show results. Players get 4 years right…give the coach 5. Which covers a full player cycle and the lame duck season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuchMany Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just now, Dabulls said: Think @Kevin mentioned something about contract length playing a role. Sorry for the confusion No yeah I saw that, could be. Just didn't hear anything about it on my end. I don't really have sources, just a one-off conversation with someone over there who knows fans like you and I are growing concerned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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