ChubbyHubby Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 At my age, I don't think I qualify as the "Up and Comer" that we're hoping for. Last I coached was a Women's team in a Church league back in 85. Lost in the finals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeseph Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Forgot that I had seen a job listing for this from Becky Burke the other day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everlast2504 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 30 minutes ago, Jeseph said: Offered and turned down: Adam Cohen, Ben McCollum Maybe offered and maybe turned down: Jerrod Calhoun Leading candidates (in no order): Me @Kevin @BrooklynBull Angres Thorpe Jim Whitesell Christian Schmidt Heather Turner Vadim Fedetov Jackie Moon Your missing Sean Smiley - Ferdonia Head Coach Brandon Woods - Sweet Home High coach Yassin Idbihi - Staff on Brose Bamberg (maybe) Parnell Smith Calvin Cage - Assitant under Regige. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yussi1870 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Will Brown is still waiting for our call. And no, I am not Will Brown. https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/Will-Brown-leaving-Albany-Patroons-17661428.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clodney Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, ChubbyHubby said: At my age, I don't think I qualify as the "Up and Comer" that we're hoping for. Last I coached was a Women's team in a Church league back in 85. Lost in the finals. Similar resume to Jerrod Calhoun's. Edited March 28, 2023 by clodney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBlearns Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Jeseph said: Vadim Fedetov Direct pipeline to elite Russian talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, UBlearns said: Direct pipeline to elite Russian talent. Brittney Griner? Too soon? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everlast2504 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, DooleyBull06 said: Brittney Griner? Too soon? At this point? Sure let's see if she can coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeseph Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Well yesterday was devastating but at least it was interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 19 minutes ago, Jeseph said: Well yesterday was devastating but at least it was interesting... Kinda like our season…it sucked but at least it was entertaining. Apologies in advance for that sarcasm. Just lightening the mood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotherobot Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 hours ago, ChubbyHubby said: Hi Gang, I've been off the grid for the last week +. I don't feel like going through 35 pages to find out where we are. Someone please summarize for me. Who have we offered the job to that has turned it down? Who do the leading candidates seem to be at this time? Thanks, This pretty much sums things up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everlast2504 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, promotherobot said: This pretty much sums things up. Is the dumpster available to coach? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 5 hours ago, capencaper said: Looking forward to seeing how this mess plays out. How much of this falls on the search firm we hired? A lot. You pay for them to offer you candidates. McCollum was their top choice for us, and he only came out here to play nice and pump up his own stock. Calhoun did the same thing after he didn't want to deal with NIL issues like he did at YSU. They didn't need a search firm for Cohen or Washington. The point of them is to recommend qualified candidates who want to take a major job and match to the right openings. CSA has failed at this twice now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yussi1870 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, Kevin said: A lot. You pay for them to offer you candidates. McCollum was their top choice for us, and he only came out here to play nice and pump up his own stock. Calhoun did the same thing after he didn't want to deal with NIL issues like he did at YSU. They didn't need a search firm for Cohen or Washington. The point of them is to recommend qualified candidates who want to take a major job and match to the right openings. CSA has failed at this twice now. Guess we won’t be a reference for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBfan44 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, Kevin said: A lot. You pay for them to offer you candidates. McCollum was their top choice for us, and he only came out here to play nice and pump up his own stock. Calhoun did the same thing after he didn't want to deal with NIL issues like he did at YSU. They didn't need a search firm for Cohen or Washington. The point of them is to recommend qualified candidates who want to take a major job and match to the right openings. CSA has failed at this twice now. While that is infuriating, at least it makes me feel like maybe our AD is more competent than I’ve been giving him credit for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBoy Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 minute ago, UBfan44 said: While that is infuriating, at least it makes me feel like maybe our AD is more competent than I’ve been giving him credit for I wouldn't be so sure about that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuchMany Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 18 minutes ago, UBfan44 said: While that is infuriating, at least it makes me feel like maybe our AD is more competent than I’ve been giving him credit for Unfortunately, he is the person who has chosen and paid these people twice now, so competence is still in question for me. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue32 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) Search firms are not really what they sound like. Generally the AD brings the names to the table and they facilitate the process and "take the fall" if the hire doesn't work out. I don't have faith in Alnutt or the firm. https://www.si.com/college/2019/05/22/coaching-search-firms-consultants-freshmen-mailbag Edited March 28, 2023 by trueblue32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Kevin said: A lot. You pay for them to offer you candidates. McCollum was their top choice for us, and he only came out here to play nice and pump up his own stock. Calhoun did the same thing after he didn't want to deal with NIL issues like he did at YSU. They didn't need a search firm for Cohen or Washington. The point of them is to recommend qualified candidates who want to take a major job and match to the right openings. CSA has failed at this twice now. Not at all. This falls on the Admin. You hire a search firm to be able to communicate prospective coaches outside of SUNY's FOIL requirements. You use the search firm to cast a wider net. Qualified candidates have been brought to UB. They are looking for compensation in the range of what UB told the firm would be the target range. Candidates have had an interest in working for UB. The issue is UB closing the deal. This is on the admin for not understanding the market better. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntsfinest Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 hours ago, ChubbyHubby said: At my age, I don't think I qualify as the "Up and Comer" that we're hoping for. Last I coached was a Women's team in a Church league back in 85. Lost in the finals. You did coach the men's team however for a long time. Overachieved with some of the guys on those rosters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChubbyHubby Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, ntsfinest said: You did coach the men's team however for a long time. Overachieved with some of the guys on those rosters "Coached" is a term that should be used very loosely. We won a bunch of championships thanks to the young talent we had on the team. I subbed in on occasion to give the guys a breather. Thanks for the Kudos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Jeseph said: Offered and turned down: Adam Cohen, Ben McCollum Maybe offered and maybe turned down: Jerrod Calhoun Leading candidates (in no order): Me @Kevin @BrooklynBull Angres Thorpe Jim Whitesell Christian Schmidt Heather Turner Vadim Fedetov Jackie Moon I will pass. My coaching experience is limited to one high school hockey game. My team was in last place. In the last game of the season I was asked to coach the team because none of the regular coaches could make the game. The team was in last place and we beat a team that needed the win to clinch the regular season title. We won 6-5 with a goal in the last 10 seconds. I then had the good sense to retire undefeated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotherobot Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, UBfan44 said: While that is infuriating, at least it makes me feel like maybe our AD is more competent than I’ve been giving him credit for 1 hour ago, MuchMany said: Unfortunately, he is the person who has chosen and paid these people twice now, so competence is still in question for me. Did Alnutt go into this process thinking he had X dollars to offer and then had the rug pulled out from under him by the UB administration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeseph Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Just now, promotherobot said: Did Alnutt go into this process thinking he had X dollars to offer and then had the rug pulled out from under him by the UB administration? It seems like knowing that information going in would be a good place to start... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotherobot Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Just now, Jeseph said: It seems like knowing that information going in would be a good place to start... I'm just trying to wrap my head around how this could happen. Alnutt did hire Maurice Linguist and he was considered a solid get. So why now the s##t show? Something feels weird, like everyone's not pulling in the same direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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