Big 4 Hoops Blogger Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) According to Tim Graham of The Athletic, the Buffalo Bills are open to sharing their proposed stadium with UB but the Buffalo athletic department isn’t interested unless the stadium is built in Amherst which seems unlikely. UB Stadium right now is subpar and less than ideal for the university. The issue is that the Bulls don’t draw enough to warrant going across town to play in Orchard Park and the Bills don’t have enough incentive to build in Amherst. Unless something crazy happens, I think UB will remain at UB Stadium for a long time. That said, Mark Alnutt addresses potentially exciting news for the stadium. He says that there are plans in place to build a separate track and field facility. As a result, UB can remove the track at UB Stadium and potentially lower their field down the line. Alnutt also said the university is looking to upgrade their current scoreboard. https://theathletic.com/2847449/2021/09/24/pegulas-invite-university-at-buffalo-to-play-in-bills-new-stadium-but-bulls-prefer-to-stay-on-campus/?source=user_shared_article Edited September 24, 2021 by Big 4 Hoops Blogger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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UB05 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 I know we always talk about eliminating the track, but as far as I know this is the first time the school had officially talked about plans to do it. Very exciting 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikescherrer8 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Remove the track, lower the stadium. Then everything else after. God bless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeseph Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 14 minutes ago, mikescherrer8 said: Remove the track, lower the stadium. Then everything else after. God bless. if only MA agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, Jeseph said: if only MA agreed I'm glad they are updating the scoreboard. It has been there since I attended my first game (which was the very first game ever) in that stadium. I'm all for nostalgia, but that's ridiculous 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ub2019 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Maybe Hochul will have a different opinion on the proposed Bills stadium on the UB campus than Cuomo did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, UBinMD said: I'm glad they are updating the scoreboard. It has been there since I attended my first game (which was the very first game ever) in that stadium. I'm all for nostalgia, but that's ridiculous 😂 That is not the original scoreboard. The original could not have color graphics or videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGBull Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 The field needs to be lowered ASAP. I love UB football but the sight lines make the game day experience one of the worst there is. Not only do we have an 8 lane track, but also another 10 feet in between that and the stands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 If ub and the bills were to share a stadium on or very close to the Amherst campus. Im not sure it makes sense to have it be an outdoor/open air stadium Closed roof allows ub to use it through out the year not just for football. And get a good amount of use out of it not just the usual concerts/festivals stadiums get other than sporting events I personally didn't fully understand why Cuomo dismissed the ub site right away. If the state is going to put a good amount of money towards something like this anyways, get something /invest in your largest public school at the same time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 29 minutes ago, Tee4three said: If ub and the bills were to share a stadium on or very close to the Amherst campus. Im not sure it makes sense to have it be an outdoor/open air stadium Closed roof allows ub to use it through out the year not just for football. And get a good amount of use out of it not just the usual concerts/festivals stadiums get other than sporting events I personally didn't fully understand why Cuomo dismissed the ub site right away. If the state is going to put a good amount of money towards something like this anyways, get something /invest in your largest public school at the same time Cuomo is an idiot 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everlast2504 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 2:07 PM, UBinMD said: Cuomo is an idiot NY would never do anything that would benefit only one SUNY school. We could spend millions on all the plans and environmental impact statement etc. for a world class stadium the would revitalize the entire region. Only for it to be deemed unfair for the rest of SUNY and we will end up with a used Bowflex. See UB2020 for what happened the last time we thought big.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubmae86 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 3 hours ago, everlast2504 said: NY would never do anything that would benefit only one SUNY school. We could spend millions on all the plans and environmental impact statement etc. for a world class stadium the would revitalize the entire region. Only for it to be deemed unfair for the rest of SUNY and we will end up with a used Bowflex. See UB2020 for what happened the last time we thought big.... It's sad but true. I shouldn't feel like UB night be big enough to just split off into it's own private institution, but I don't think the endowment is large enough. Also, I'm not sure they could even do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, ubmae86 said: It's sad but true. I shouldn't feel like UB night be big enough to just split off into it's own private institution, but I don't think the endowment is large enough. Also, I'm not sure they could even do it It's the issue with the Everyone is Equal mentality that we have developed as a country. It's just not the case. Some people want more, others are ok where they are. I have not beef with that. Those that want more should be able to do that (and not at the detriment of other institutions either). The state of NY is short sighted if they don't think making UB a big time relevant institution would help the entire SUNY system. It's buffoonery all around in my opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, ubmae86 said: It's sad but true. I shouldn't feel like UB night be big enough to just split off into it's own private institution, but I don't think the endowment is large enough. Also, I'm not sure they could even do it That is why they became part of SUNY. It was either join go by the way of Milton College. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKBullsfan Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) Back to the stadium discussion, hear me out on this one… why not follow the Bills path and build new but instead knock down current UB stadium and build new on the same exact site. While the new stadium is being built, play at the new Bills stadium and test it out to see if you can play 1 or 2 big games a year there with Notre Dame or Michigan. Forget lowering the track, go big and build new to get it right. The rest of UB stadium sucks anyway. Just rebuild on site and aim for 30,000k seats. Edited September 29, 2021 by MKBullsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skrabukes Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, MKBullsfan said: Back to the stadium discussion, hear me out on this one… why not follow the Bills path and build new but instead knock down current UB stadium and build new on the same exact site. While the new stadium is being built, play at the new Bills stadium and test it out to see if you can play 1 or 2 big games a year there with Notre Dame or Michigan. Forget lowering the track, go big and build new to get it right. The rest of UB stadium sucks anyway. Just rebuild on site and aim for 30,000k seats. Sure, got a couple hundred mil or so you'd like to donate for demolition and a brand new stadium? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotherobot Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 hours ago, MKBullsfan said: Back to the stadium discussion, hear me out on this one… why not follow the Bills path and build new but instead knock down current UB stadium and build new on the same exact site. While the new stadium is being built, play at the new Bills stadium and test it out to see if you can play 1 or 2 big games a year there with Notre Dame or Michigan. Forget lowering the track, go big and build new to get it right. The rest of UB stadium sucks anyway. Just rebuild on site and aim for 30,000k seats. 1 hour ago, skrabukes said: Sure, got a couple hundred mil or so you'd like to donate for demolition and a brand new stadium? Here's what they should do. Knock down UB Stadium and build a new Bills/Bulls stadium on that site. UB plays all games at Highmark during construction. Short term pain for long term gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB92 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 11 hours ago, skrabukes said: Sure, got a couple hundred mil or so you'd like to donate for demolition and a brand new stadium? Do we know where the new stadium could be for the Bills? If they were to build it in Amherst, near campus, it is a 100% no brainer that UB should share that stadium. The other option would be, as has been stated before, to play one game at wherever the Bills build their stadium and play a big game there annually. Imagine telling a recruit "you don't have to wait until a Sunday to play in an NFL stadium -- at UB, you can do that on a Saturday". All of my life experiences tell me that there is a lot that can be done with some creative vision and many/most people use "money" as an excuse as to why something can't be done (heck...a few people already did in this thread). I feel obligated in this day and age (and because people on this board are frequent users of logical fallacies) to comment that I am not saying "money isn't important". I am saying that money is often used as a reason that stops all discussion and creativity...and my life experiences have shown me that you can often work around that and get a really good outcome much cheaper than expected. It is like those people at a meeting when you present some ideas and their whole goal (and, often, identity) is to poke holes in a plan (using exceptions) with no constructive commentary. I avoid those people as much as I can, but they are everywhere. Just because UB has not yet been able to capture even part of the Bills fan base doesn't mean it can't happen -- it just has happened yet. Yeah...the stadium has to go, but when it is replaced, it needs to be done right...not some slight improvement. The US hasn't hosted the World University Games (Summer) since UB did in 1993...maybe we can host again...and give them better stadium plans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecoveringHillbilly Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) The state released the 2019 studies of potential sites, including UB North: Empire State Development site IMHO, a typical pro-sports facility study, when all that is needed is, "You want an NFL team? Gotta pony up". No need for all the lists of One Buffalo items....everyone knows the real economics of these things. On a potential stadium, we all know the Bills have sunk costs in OP and prefer to build there. The report confirms much of that; the Bills offices, the training facilities, the existing parking and the traffic controls. And it gives all manner of legacy credit in "scoring high" for location, familiarity, what the Bills are known for, etc. Presentation Page #123 - 4 potential stadium sites: Rebuilt UB Stadium, new stadium in the Service Road area, new stadium over Governor's lots, new stadium on UB-controlled land across from Millersport Highway. Direct from the report: Because of the expansive campus property, several stadium location options were explored, but only one was deemed potentially feasible. • While there “appears” to be available land within the campus property, east of Millersport Highway, this also has sensitive environmental issues that would preclude this option. • A second option was to replace the existing U.B. stadium with a new Bills stadium, but the new fieldhouse building, existing campus buildings and eastern property line severely constricts the site, which was then determined to be undesirable. • A third option was to locate a stadium on surface parking lots in the northwest quadrant of campus, but its proximity to residential dorms and encroachment on permitted parking presented difficulties. • With the second and third options, the location of a new stadium “within the loop” of Audubon/Millersport was also problematic, creating a conflict between what is Bills and what is Bulls … the fourth site option, outside the loop, avoided this issue by allowing the new stadium to establish its own identity and presence, sufficiently outside the “shadow of U.B.” When a stadium design has not even been developed, why go with a best-guess design and throw out UB Stadium when the fieldhouse is East-West not North-South, we could demo Nan Harvey Field, Morris Center, Stadium lot, and rebuild Nan Harvey Field elsewhere, and fit a 60K stadium just fine? And the concept of "shadow of U.B.", is flattering for UB. In the last 40 years the Cardinals, Bears, Raiders, Rams, all played seasons at university-controlled stadia, without many issues. Did people in LA Coliseum confuse the Raiders winning a Super Bowl and the Trojans finishing #1? Hardly. And the report dings the Bills not controlling the parking? Really? That could not be worked out?. And, the Bills having to work with both UB and Amherst is a potential negative?! How so, because they are stronger institutions than ECC and O.P.? So may questionable conclusions. Edited December 28, 2021 by RecoveringHillbilly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotherobot Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Why build 60K? Go for 40K and put a roof on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 6 hours ago, promotherobot said: Why build 60K? Go for 40K and put a roof on. Because football is better outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotherobot Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, BrooklynBull said: Because football is better outside. Sure it is. My best memories include sitting in UB stadium on a Tuesday with a frigid November wind along with a dozen people. Good times. Edited December 31, 2021 by promotherobot 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, promotherobot said: Sure it is. My best memories include sitting in UB stadium on a Tuesday with a frigid November wind along with a dozen people. Good times. Been there, done that, although it was a Wednesday. Much better than 130 degrees on the field in Lincoln. Edited January 1, 2022 by BrooklynBull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBlearns Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 6:33 PM, promotherobot said: Sure it is. My best memories include sitting in UB stadium on a Tuesday with a frigid November wind along with a dozen people. Good times. MACtion is a big part of why I gave up my season tickets a few years back. Just have no desire to sit through 1, let alone 2, MACtion home game(s) when it's on ESPN2/ESPNU. I'd strongly consider getting back in for seasons if there was a domed stadium, or they shared a dome with the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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