DooleyBull06 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, 961819 said: Heard they only gave him 1 car too 🙄 Whatever he does do not let him use any other form of transportation to show recruits around the city. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 On ‎5‎/‎7‎/‎2019 at 11:17 AM, SGBull said: https://watchstadium.com/news/buffalo-coach-jim-whitesell-agrees-to-five-year-contract-salary-buyout-incentives-05-06-2019/ Not sure if the specific details of his contract were already posted, but here they are. So his guaranteed compensation is actually $400k but only $300k is counted as salary for benefits purposes. Interesting to compare the contract to the contract Georgia State gave Lanier. https://watchstadium.com/news/georgia-state-coach-rob-lanier-signs-five-year-contract-salary-buyout-incentives-04-17-2019/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 this is actually really neat. I forgot why he had to stop playing, but keeping him around the team is a real classy move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 https://buffalonews.com/2019/08/02/ub-mens-basketball-recruiting-jim-whitesell-david-nickelberry-savion-gallion-david-skogman-josh-mballa-laquill-hardnett/ Â Great article on Whitesell and the recruiting efforts pulled off. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gxtrex Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 2 hours ago, DooleyBull06 said: https://buffalonews.com/2019/08/02/ub-mens-basketball-recruiting-jim-whitesell-david-nickelberry-savion-gallion-david-skogman-josh-mballa-laquill-hardnett/  Great article on Whitesell and the recruiting efforts pulled off. Great read. It sucks that we lost our entire incoming class, but Whitesell did a great job allowing us be competitive in the MAC again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineBull Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 On ‎8‎/‎2‎/‎2019 at 5:06 PM, Gxtrex said: Great read. It sucks that we lost our entire incoming class, but Whitesell did a great job allowing us be competitive in the MAC again. No doubt, this coaching staff has done a phenomenal job replacing the recruits we lost. Honestly, I am more excited to watch this team play for Whitesell than I was for the class Oats had coming in, especially if Mballa is granted his waiver! This class is long and athletic. Its going to be another great season for us Bulls fans. I applaud this coaching staff! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire17 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 One of my next-door neighbors asked me today  if I was going to renew our season tickets. I said, “Yeah”. He said, “ I don’t think their new coach has the persona.” I wasn’t exactly sure what he meant, but further discussion elicited this comment from him (knowledgeable sports fan/ not a Bulls follower per se): “He doesn’t project a strong image...one thing for sure - he’s no Oats”. I told him what a tremendous job Whitesell and staff had done in retaining the returning players and the magnificent job that they did in replacing an entire recruiting class in such a short amount of time with some great recruits. It didn’t sway his impression. FWIW, he’s a looong time season ticket holder for the Bills - talk about a dumpster fire... Only Whitesell can dispel the impression that my neighbor, and others, have of the next edition of the UB men’s basketball program.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, squire17 said: One of my next-door neighbors asked me today  if I was going to renew our season tickets. I said, “Yeah”. He said, “ I don’t think their new coach has the persona.” I wasn’t exactly sure what he meant, but further discussion elicited this comment from him (knowledgeable sports fan/ not a Bulls follower per se): “He doesn’t project a strong image...one thing for sure - he’s no Oats”.  He isn’t Oats. And that’s not a bad thing. Oats was very blunt and direct. Bordered on arrogant. Not crazy like Hurley. And that was fine. Two prime examples...against Arizona at half he said we should be up double digits. Low and behold we blew them out. He then said we can take advantage of a youthful Kentucky team. I don’t think that sat well with coach Calipari and we know what happened. Coach Whitesell has a different personality. A more mature one some might say. Bottom line is can he coach and can his message reach our players? He may not excite some but it takes nothing away from the job and the staff have done. Let the coaches coach and players excite. Go Bulls! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DooleyBull06 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, 961819 said:  Lol. Is that Hodgson’s fat ass in there? Hey whatever works. Just love how this is being done near a pool in the backyard of probably a mansion. Love the message that sends. To be fair on day 2 looks like they took the boot camp to a lake and got muddy. Oats even went through the drills. No hate. Just illustrates the differences between Whitesell and Oats. Will there come a time when Whitesell is considered “out of touch”. Which is why retaining coach Q and bringing in coach Jenkins was important. Youthful counterbalance to Whitesell’s maturity. Kinda like he was for Oats. Edited August 20, 2019 by DooleyBull06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB92 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 13 hours ago, DooleyBull06 said:  He isn’t Oats. And that’s not a bad thing. Oats was very blunt and direct. Bordered on arrogant. Not crazy like Hurley. And that was fine. Two prime examples...against Arizona at half he said we should be up double digits. Low and behold we blew them out. He then said we can take advantage of a youthful Kentucky team. I don’t think that sat well with coach Calipari and we know what happened. Coach Whitesell has a different personality. A more mature one some might say. Bottom line is can he coach and can his message reach our players? He may not excite some but it takes nothing away from the job and the staff have done. Let the coaches coach and players excite. Go Bulls! If the team scores 90+ in their first few games and win, it won't be about "persona".  When you win, people adjust their thoughts to fit who you are.  If the team scores 55 points and has 24 turnovers...well, that's another story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 9 hours ago, 961819 said: Â Â This seems like a much better team building / physical workout. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikescherrer8 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 16 hours ago, squire17 said: One of my next-door neighbors asked me today  if I was going to renew our season tickets. I said, “Yeah”. He said, “ I don’t think their new coach has the persona.” I wasn’t exactly sure what he meant, but further discussion elicited this comment from him (knowledgeable sports fan/ not a Bulls follower per se): “He doesn’t project a strong image...one thing for sure - he’s no Oats”. I told him what a tremendous job Whitesell and staff had done in retaining the returning players and the magnificent job that they did in replacing an entire recruiting class in such a short amount of time with some great recruits. It didn’t sway his impression. FWIW, he’s a looong time season ticket holder for the Bills - talk about a dumpster fire... Only Whitesell can dispel the impression that my neighbor, and others, have of the next edition of the UB men’s basketball program.  So your neighbor is a long time Bills season ticket holder, but he’s not sure about Whitesell’s persona and how that may or may not have an effect on the season. That, about sums up WNY’s knowledge and interest in college basketball. College sports for that matter. You could have just said well, with all due respect, Bulls basketball has done more in the last 6 years than the Bills have done in 25 years. But, people wanna waste their money on what they please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, mikescherrer8 said: So your neighbor is a long time Bills season ticket holder, but he’s not sure about Whitesell’s persona and how that may or may not have an effect on the season. That, about sums up WNY’s knowledge and interest in college basketball. College sports for that matter. You could have just said well, with all due respect, Bulls basketball has done more in the last 6 years than the Bills have done in 25 years. But, people wanna waste their money on what they please. While that might be true that’s not how we turn Bills fans into Bulls fans. I’m guilty of going off on how much the Bills suck but I try to limit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikescherrer8 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, rma said: While that might be true that’s not how we turn Bills fans into Bulls fans. I’m guilty of going off on how much the Bills suck but I try to limit it. There’s not really a way to “convert” people, either they are interested in college athletics or they’re not. And it just sounds like he’s not too interested. Or he watches from afar. If he’s stayed up on top of how well the staff has maintained the roster and has recruited a great batch of players, and has a relatively fun schedule, he’d have some better insight to share other than “well to me, he doesn’t have the image or persona.” This irks me a tad because I’ve heard it already from a bunch of people who really don’t quite get it. But I’m always in for a good ol’ “I told you so” come March. *sorry for the rant* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weareub46 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I don’t think it’s necessarily converting we need to do. I don’t think bills and bulls fans need to be mutually exclusive. Last season opened up the eyes of a lot of people in the community which is fantastic. We need consistent success and more and more people will start supporting the college sports. Overall our success is recent. The first steps are done. Now we need to keep the ball rolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Best thing that could happen to UB football is if the Bills left town. It is a hard sell to get people to show up for UB games when they have the Bills playing the same weekend. Even if the Bills are away people dedicate their Sundays to football. There are a lot of college basketball fans in the Buffalo area and they don't seem to care too much about our team. That is the head scratcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 3 hours ago, dutchcountry7 said: Best thing that could happen to UB football is if the Bills left town. SDSU's attendance barely moved when the Chargers left. I think we'd pick up some fans, but I think winning often and winning big would do more than the Bills leaving would do. Unfortunately we can't beat Big Ten teams every year and get home games against non-directional schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, rma said: SDSU's attendance barely moved when the Chargers left. I think we'd pick up some fans, but I think winning often and winning big would do more than the Bills leaving would do. Unfortunately we can't beat Big Ten teams every year and get home games against non-directional schools. The chargers left because there wasn’t a big market of support there. The same thing they’ve found in LA.  California isn’t really great at supporting teams unless they are winning.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weareub46 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, dutchcountry7 said: California isn’t really great at supporting teams unless they are winning.  I think that’s pretty much everywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChubbyHubby Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 And... we don't want the Bills to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchcountry7 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 58 minutes ago, ChubbyHubby said: And... we don't want the Bills to leave. Why is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
961819 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 28 minutes ago, dutchcountry7 said: Why is that? Because we’re fans of their team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChubbyHubby Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Thank you. It really is possible to be a fan of both the Bulls and the Bills.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 On 8/20/2019 at 12:34 PM, rma said: While that might be true that’s not how we turn Bills fans into Bulls fans. I can see how this could be misconstrued. To clarify, not taking away somebody’s Bills fandom to turn them into Bulls fans, but rather turning somebody who has a passion for pro football into one that can at least keep up with local college ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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