DooleyBull06 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, MuchMany said: I didn't find any of the three advantages she listed (arena, budget, fans) as particularly moving or even true. For perspective, this was a few years ago but it’s a good reference… https://watchstadium.com/mac-college-basketball-coaches-rank-the-best-jobs-in-the-conference-01-10-2019/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuchMany Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 minute ago, DooleyBull06 said: For perspective, this was a few years ago but it’s a good reference… https://watchstadium.com/mac-college-basketball-coaches-rank-the-best-jobs-in-the-conference-01-10-2019/ Good read. Finishing 11th of 12 in "recruiting base" shows a lack of imagination when we're a 60 minute drive from the 6th largest metro in North America. 1st of 12 in "game atmosphere" is definitely no longer the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 I guess Pitino just loving to coach no matter where now has a price tag! Pay your penance in the lower levels of D1 and then cash that check! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 15 minutes ago, MuchMany said: Good read. Finishing 11th of 12 in "recruiting base" shows a lack of imagination when we're a 60 minute drive from the 6th largest metro in North America. 1st of 12 in "game atmosphere" is definitely no longer the case. The recruiting picked up at the end of Oats stint but it’s definitely something we need to improve. Get NYC players. From Buffalo we have access to Detroit, Chicago, Philly and the DMV. We must establish those roots. When we are winning Alumni is undoubtedly rocking. I just don’t think Whitesell had the personality or energy that fans gravitated to. But in general I would like to be at the top of these categories within our conference. The few names we have been linked to are already creating buzz. Hopefully it’s just the start. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabulls Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Looks like we will also need assistant’s. in the recruiting board a member posted that Quarles twitter says “former buffalo assistant”. Foleys also says the same thing. So alnutt is all in in changing everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dabulls said: Looks like we will also need assistant’s. in the recruiting board a member posted that Quarles twitter says “former buffalo assistant”. Foleys also says the same thing. So alnutt is all in in changing everything If I remember correctly, Foley was brought is as an add on for one of our JUCO recruiting bases if I'm not mistaken. Not a surprise he will be moving on. I would assume the new guy would want to bring his staff with him, except maybe keeping some of the operations people for some level of continuity and understanding how UBs athletic department works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB Horns Up Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) Rick Pitino to St John’s basketball this is who should have been hired by UB Bulls basketball. We’re not a big one ridiculous Rick Pitino would have gotten UB Bulls basketball to the NCAA’s. Instead of cheap training wheels maybe UB Bulls basketball coach the former UB Bulls basketball team manager over proven basketball head coach ridiculous. UB will probably over pay the former UB team manager and give whatever his lawyer wants long term contract fail. Don’t tell me New York City cares about UB they don’t in my opinion. UB Horns Up! Go Bulls! Let’s Go Buffalo Edited March 20, 2023 by UB Horns Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGBull Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, UB Horns Up said: Rick Pitino to St John’s basketball this is who should have been hired by UB Bulls basketball. We’re not a big one ridiculous Rick Pitino would have gotten UB Bulls basketball to the NCAA’s. Instead of cheap training wheels maybe UB Bulls basketball coach the former UB Bulls basketball team manager over proven basketball head coach ridiculous. UB will probably over pay the former UB team manager and give whatever his lawyer wants long term contract fail. Don’t tell me New York City cares about UB they don’t in my opinion. UB Horns Up! Go Bulls! Let’s Go Buffalo Hate to break it to you, but St. John’s is a better job that UB. Pitino chooses them over us every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yussi1870 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, SGBull said: Hate to break it to you, but St. John’s is a better job that UB. Pitino chooses them over us every time. And while he would be successful I’m sure, the culture of our program isn’t a fit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecoveringHillbilly Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/insider/story/_/id/35784644/college-basketball-coaching-carousel-2022-23-latest-buzz-prime-candidates-analysis-top-vacancies ESPN has the 3 names we like plus....recently fired Butler coach LaVall Jordan. Meh.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 4 hours ago, UB Horns Up said: Rick Pitino to St John’s basketball this is who should have been hired by UB Bulls basketball. We’re not a big one ridiculous Rick Pitino would have gotten UB Bulls basketball to the NCAA’s. Instead of cheap training wheels maybe UB Bulls basketball coach the former UB Bulls basketball team manager over proven basketball head coach ridiculous. UB will probably over pay the former UB team manager and give whatever his lawyer wants long term contract fail. Don’t tell me New York City cares about UB they don’t in my opinion. UB Horns Up! Go Bulls! Let’s Go Buffalo I will pass on a 70 year old with sex and recruiting scandals in the past. He has had NCAA issues and violations at Hawai'i, and a vacated national title at Louisville. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yussi1870 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 3 hours ago, RecoveringHillbilly said: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/insider/story/_/id/35784644/college-basketball-coaching-carousel-2022-23-latest-buzz-prime-candidates-analysis-top-vacancies ESPN has the 3 names we like plus....recently fired Butler coach LaVall Jordan. Meh.. Iona’s a big job but UB’s not? “Other big positions are still open, including California, Providence, Iona, Temple and Texas Tech.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukbro00 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, yussi1870 said: Iona’s a big job but UB’s not? “Other big positions are still open, including California, Providence, Iona, Temple and Texas Tech.” Tournament team, but in reality any good players will likely transfer out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, ukbro00 said: Tournament team, but in reality any good players will likely transfer out I didn’t follow them much, any Iona players Big East caliber that will follow him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315716hoops Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Kenya Hunter Indiana University Associate Head Coach?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 3 hours ago, yussi1870 said: Iona’s a big job but UB’s not? “Other big positions are still open, including California, Providence, Iona, Temple and Texas Tech.” Iona is a better job at this moment yes. Rich history winning wise. Funds. In the NYC market. Easier conference to dominate. Not picking a fight but it is. Of those jobs listed we probably come in last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 6 hours ago, 315716hoops said: Kenya Hunter Indiana University Associate Head Coach?? He certainly has a solid resume and focus on defense has me intrigued. On surface he seems like a good candidate to include in the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasketBull Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 7 hours ago, 315716hoops said: Kenya Hunter Indiana University Associate Head Coach?? has this name been floated or is this just speculation? This may be the name I'd be least excited to see attached to this job. Sure he has a long history of being at some big programs but it seems like every step of the way those programs seemed to have some pretty ho-hum years while he was there. Stints at Xavier and Georgetown seemed to produce the best results, but we're taking 15+ years ago at this point. Duquesne 1998-2000 NC State (DBO) 2001 Xavier 2004 Georgetown 2007 Nebraska 2014 UConn 2018 Indiana 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuchMany Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 7 hours ago, 315716hoops said: Kenya Hunter Indiana University Associate Head Coach?? Is this a scoop or a suggestion? First post, Syracuse and Buffalo area codes, 1am. I'm intrigued. 😅 🤨 Maybe he could bring in Ohio's second best player - his son - as a transfer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 49 minutes ago, BasketBull said: has this name been floated or is this just speculation? This may be the name I'd be least excited to see attached to this job. Sure he has a long history of being at some big programs but it seems like every step of the way those programs seemed to have some pretty ho-hum years while he was there. Stints at Xavier and Georgetown seemed to produce the best results, but we're taking 15+ years ago at this point. Duquesne 1998-2000 NC State (DBO) 2001 Xavier 2004 Georgetown 2007 Nebraska 2014 UConn 2018 Indiana 2020 Indiana is having a bit of a resurgence, might be an option. I'm still on the Cohen bandwagon if he wants it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotherobot Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 22 hours ago, Dabulls said: I dont really believe that we would be settling for Washington. He’s got a really great track record. He’s an incredible recruiter, had great team success at Michigan and is heavily involved in elevating the position of black coaches in basketball (much like Quarles). I’m more of a fan of Cohen due to the fact that he’s from WNY and could have his team more heavily involved in the community. Both are pretty good choices for the HC gig I get nervous when being a local guy is a major selling point. It's great that someone is from WNY but that won't mean anything if he can't build a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotherobot Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 17 hours ago, UB Horns Up said: Rick Pitino to St John’s basketball this is who should have been hired by UB Bulls basketball. We’re not a big one ridiculous Rick Pitino would have gotten UB Bulls basketball to the NCAA’s. Instead of cheap training wheels maybe UB Bulls basketball coach the former UB Bulls basketball team manager over proven basketball head coach ridiculous. UB will probably over pay the former UB team manager and give whatever his lawyer wants long term contract fail. Don’t tell me New York City cares about UB they don’t in my opinion. UB Horns Up! Go Bulls! Let’s Go Buffalo Get real. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuchMany Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, promotherobot said: I get nervous when being a local guy is a major selling point. It's great that someone is from WNY but that won't mean anything if he can't build a winner. I think "major selling point" is an overstatement. It's a secondary factor and a compelling one. He was on the NABC 30 under 30 list and has been a D1 assistant for half his life. We're not hiring a local HS coach like Starling Bryant here. Any reason to think he can't build a winner here (other than the fact that none of us can predict the future)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeseph Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 This new coach is certainly going to have a blank slate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire17 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) Not sure how reliable, but Pitino’s salary at St John’s is $20 mil for 6 years. Why didn’t Allnut get this brilliant guy? Even if he only stayed for 3 or 4 years…LMAO! Edited March 21, 2023 by squire17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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