Kevin Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 minute ago, mikescherrer8 said: We have donors? haha I giggled at this. Didn't they want Hodgson to be the coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikescherrer8 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, DooleyBull06 said: What was his reason for leaving? Because we were loaded at guard at the time and hamlet was never gonna see playing time as long as Oats was there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotherobot Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, mikescherrer8 said: We have donors? That is the joke. Who's gonna write 5-figure, 6-figure checks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, mikescherrer8 said: Because we were loaded at guard at the time and hamlet was never gonna see playing time as long as Oats was there. He he waited it out or had we been able to convince him to stay, last season and this season he would’ve been a starter here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skrabukes Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, DooleyBull06 said: He he waited it out or had we been able to convince him to stay, last season and this season he would’ve been a starter here I think he's happy where he is. Good for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 minute ago, skrabukes said: I think he's happy where he is. Good for him. No doubt. I take nothing away from him nor do I blame. I’m just simple saying...would’ve looked good in a bulls uniform. Could’ve been the missing piece we needed this season. Is the type of player we need to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikescherrer8 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, promotherobot said: That is the joke. Who's gonna write 5-figure, 6-figure checks? ............Khalil Mack? *crosses fingers* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skrabukes Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, DooleyBull06 said: No doubt. I take nothing away from him nor do I blame. I’m just simple saying...would’ve looked good in a bulls uniform. Could’ve been the missing piece we needed this season. Is the type of player we need to get. I would have to assume that the staff figured that they had the pieces. Pretty much everyone on this board was jazzed up about Chance. We all got the "Go to Jail" card on that one unfortunately (maybe we'll roll doubles next time). We also were hyped for Zachery. That one remains to be seen, maybe a glimmer of hope there? If those 2 pieces are what we (and surely the staff) thought, this team is far different than the current one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Side note...CSU is exactly the team and type of team we need and should schedule for non conference. Even if it means going on the road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 As for Whitesell...he puts together another season like this next year. Or wins 20...and the talk from administration will be extension. Not firing. Mid majors who are cheap financially don’t fire winning coaches. So I don’t understand the calls for him to be fired...right now. The fairer question is have we regressed as a program to the days before Hurley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DooleyBull06 said: As for Whitesell...he puts together another season like this next year. Or wins 20...and the talk from administration will be extension. Not firing. Mid majors who are cheap financially don’t fire winning coaches. So I don’t understand the calls for him to be fired...right now. The fairer question is have we regressed as a program to the days before Hurley? We haven't regressed in my opinion but the reason there is so much talk about a change is there is a glaring potential to head back there Edited March 20, 2021 by Tee4three Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, skrabukes said: I would have to assume that the staff figured that they had the pieces. Pretty much everyone on this board was jazzed up about Chance. We all got the "Go to Jail" card on that one unfortunately (maybe we'll roll doubles next time). We also were hyped for Zachery. That one remains to be seen, maybe a glimmer of hope there? If those 2 pieces are what we (and surely the staff) thought, this team is far different than the current one. Those 2 pieces hurt. We go from being 5 guys deep to actually having an ok bench and being able to rest players throughout the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skrabukes Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, DooleyBull06 said: The fairer question is have we regressed as a program to the days before Hurley? Not as of 10:30pm on 3/19/21 in my eyes. Could it go the other way? Could it go above and beyond? I think both are possible. I'm hopeful for the latter. Let's see what the off-season brings. Edited March 20, 2021 by skrabukes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tee4three said: We haven't regressed in my opinion but the reason there is so much talk about a change is there is a glaring potential to head back there To this point...I don’t see the AD making a preemptive move. Might take a couple losing seasons back to back to force their hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, skrabukes said: Not as of 10:30pm on 3/19/21 in my eyes. Could it go the other way? Could it go above and beyond? I think both are possible. I'm hopeful for the latter. Let's see what the off-season brings. To this point...next year is a defining year for Whitesell. Does he take a good senior laden team to a MAC title? Does he do enough to warrant extension talks? Or does he flop completely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skrabukes Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, DooleyBull06 said: To this point...next year is a defining year for Whitesell. Does he take a good senior laden team to a MAC title? Does he do enough to warrant extension talks? Or does he flop completely? I would believe that everyone here is hoping for the first 2 (sadly I think some people want the 3rd so that they can prove they are smarter than others). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, DooleyBull06 said: To this point...I don’t see the AD making a preemptive move. Might take a couple losing seasons back to back to force their hand. Whens the last time ub basketball had a losing season? (I honestly can't remember one) Whitesell is going to get his contract, will he get more is the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChubbyHubby Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Do we know yet what the seniors are planning on doing? Stay - go... This extra year that has been granted, is it just for the seniors, or for all players? We could conceivably have the same team next season, plus some new guys, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeseph Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 54 minutes ago, markchicago said: maybe you get the team to practice foul shots, play under control and cut down turnovers I think it’s fair to ask a coach to do these things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeseph Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, skrabukes said: I would believe that everyone here is hoping for the first 2 (sadly I think some people want the 3rd so that they can prove they are smarter than others). Not a single member of this forum wants him to fail. I’m begging him to make this thread look like nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yussi1870 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 46 minutes ago, DooleyBull06 said: To this point...next year is a defining year for Whitesell. Does he take a good senior laden team to a MAC title? Does he do enough to warrant extension talks? Or does he flop completely? The problem is that he will be neither an A coach or an F coach. He’ll be a C coach and for many fans that’s fine. That’s why we held on to Spoon because folks are fine with a C team and a C coach. They think of all the SUNY’s as the same. There’s another set of us who think of UB as the flagship and deserving of an A coach and an A team. We can allow for a B level of play once in a while but will not stand for C. We shouldn’t wait until we become the C team. Let’s read the tea leaves and move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Maybe Whitesell retires lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDBullsfan89 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Erie County said: Ummmm what? One team is advancing because of them, and the other got bounced in first round in the NIT Quite the irony there, we lose an NIT opener on UNT's home court while they pull the 2nd biggest upset of the day in the real tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBulls99 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Genuine question. Who had a better year, us or Toledo? They were widely viewed as the most successful MAC team this year but lost in the conference semis and also got bounced in the first round of the NIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 The expectation of the basketball team should be Mac championship year in year out regular season and conference tournament with the idea of playing in the Ncaa's or at minimum the NIT. I don't think this is a crazy ask either This off season is gigantic for the program not just whitesell. We need to make sure that our players stay, and we need to hit on recruits - not just talented players but good kids too. I don't want to read that a player that represents my school dropped off the team and proceeded to be arrested for kid napping - that's a bad look Right now from everything I've seen (don't have any idea on how he is outside of games) Jim whitesell has a passing grade, barely but he is passing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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