Chet Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Great to see JW’s support for the Blue Collar team. I know he’s not much active on social media, but c’mon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordTime35 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 23 hours ago, Chet said: Great to see JW’s support for the Blue Collar team. I know he’s not much active on social media, but c’mon. He must have heard you! @Chet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 40 minutes ago, FordTime35 said: He must have heard you! @Chet Maybe he has an account on here 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubbulls98 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Side note: I'd like to thank Tee4Three for bringing up the UB ESPN forum. Like him, I feel like I was here since the beginning and before UB Fan Forums were a thing. I don't think we get any points for being around way before UB was on the national stage, but hey it's cool to feel old along with someone. Go UB! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dabulls Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Jeseph said: Loving the confidence he has! This OC schedule will definitely prepare us for MAC play. Wouldn’t be surprised if we give the wolverines a run for their money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeseph Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Back again to be talked off the ledge. Right now it feels like we may see wasted senior campaigns of Jordan, Graves, Segu, Williams and Mballa. Let's defend the hire with logical reasoning in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB05 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jeseph said: Back again to be talked off the ledge. Right now it feels like we may see wasted senior campaigns of Jordan, Graves, Segu, Williams and Mballa. Let's defend the hire with logical reasoning in this thread. Last nights loss was tough, but let’s not act like it’s a wasted season because of one non conference loss. If people thought we’d be getting an at large they were kidding themselves. At the end of the season if they underperform and don’t make the tournament I’ll understand the pessimism completely. But for now I’m going to enjoy the games and not obsess over every speed bump. Even Oats 30 win team had their stinkers, I seem to remember losing to the worst team in the conference northern Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeseph Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 minute ago, UB05 said: Even Oats 30 win team had their stinkers, I seem to remember losing to the worst team in the conference northern Illinois That team started hot, plowed through almost everyone they fasted, faltered, fixed it and looked great in March. This team looks the same as they have looked the past 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB05 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jeseph said: That team started hot, plowed through almost everyone they fasted, faltered, fixed it and looked great in March. This team looks the same as they have looked the past 2 years. In a couple months we’ll have a lot more clarity regarding that. This is the year they need to make the tournament, I think everyone agrees on that. Just seems weird that people are throwing in the towel after one loss. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabulls Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Good teams lose games they should win, we’ve seen upsets all over the country this season. I’m critical of Whitesell but I don’t believe he’s all that terrible. A loss like this is upsetting but I’m going to wait until the end of the season to see how we end up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeseph Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dabulls said: I don’t believe he’s all that terrible. Not quite a vote for JW though, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 57 minutes ago, UB05 said: Last nights loss was tough, but let’s not act like it’s a wasted season because of one non conference loss. If people thought we’d be getting an at large they were kidding themselves. At the end of the season if they underperform and don’t make the tournament I’ll understand the pessimism completely. But for now I’m going to enjoy the games and not obsess over every speed bump. Even Oats 30 win team had their stinkers, I seem to remember losing to the worst team in the conference northern Illinois It's not just yesterday's loss IMO. Whitesell's teams have consistently played below expectations. I suppose it's possible that expectations have been too high. It's a tough act to follow for Whitesell. He will always be compared to Oats and will always fall well short in any measurement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB05 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 43 minutes ago, Chet said: It's not just yesterday's loss IMO. Whitesell's teams have consistently played below expectations. I suppose it's possible that expectations have been too high. It's a tough act to follow for Whitesell. He will always be compared to Oats and will always fall well short in any measurement. I don’t really disagree with this. I think I’m just more empathetic towards Whitesell and the job he’s done. No matter who it was that followed Oats, they were going to have an uphill climb. The difference for me is that Whitesell was able to keep the entire team together. I really doubt a different candidate would’ve been able to bring in better than Williams/Segu/Graves/Mballa, though obviously we’ll never know for sure. Year 1 saw growing pains, year 2 was an improvement getting to the MAC championship and then the NIT, now we’re in year 3. If we make the tournament we’ll have improved every year under his coaching. If that trajectory is a disappointment then I’m of the opinion that expectations were too high from the start. We’ve been spoiled with high major coaches in Hurley and Oats, and I think people underestimate the risk of trying to hire that again from outside the program. Look at football, Linguist was the best get possible when Leipold left and were still seeing major growing pains and have taken a step back in the short term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Chet said: It's not just yesterday's loss IMO. Whitesell's teams have consistently played below expectations. I suppose it's possible that expectations have been too high. It's a tough act to follow for Whitesell. He will always be compared to Oats and will always fall well short in any measurement. As would many coaches. The question is not is he as good as Oats. Clearly he is not. If the team improves in problem areas (primarily turnovers, and rebounding) I can see this team still meeting my expectations of rank in 60s with 20-21 wins (ex non-D1 opponents). Now many are saying that winning the MACC is a must. As a fan it is a must for me, but if we lose a 50/50 contest to a very good Ohio team I would.be disappointed but hard for me to say fire a guy who has say 60th (subjective of course) ranked team in country. I have asked before, are you able to hire an Oats caliber coach every 3 to 4 years? However one big caveat, his recruits need to start showing something. If Skogman continues at this pace it does not bode well for next year. Would also like to see more minutes for Jones too. Perhaps some minutes for Mading/Blocker would be nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I’d just like to add a few thoughts. This isn’t about comparing Whitesell to Oats. No comparison. End of story. This isn’t about expectations being too high. Our expectations are where they should be based on the progression of this team. To me this is about striking while the window of opportunity is still open. Once Whitesell took over and returned all the players Oats left, the ship was stabilized and still on a championship course. A championship within the tenure of Mballa/Williams/Segu was not an unreal expectation. Many of us here feel if we don’t win this year, a return to dormant days are ahead. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeseph Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, DooleyBull06 said: I’d just like to add a few thoughts. This isn’t about comparing Whitesell to Oats. No comparison. End of story. This isn’t about expectations being too high. Our expectations are where they should be based on the progression of this team. To me this is about striking while the window of opportunity is still open. Once Whitesell took over and returned all the players Oats left, the ship was stabilized and still on a championship course. A championship within the tenure of Mballa/Williams/Segu was not an unreal expectation. Many of us here feel if we don’t win this year, a return to dormant days are ahead. This. If we don’t win this year I feel like there’s a good chance we don’t win again in the next 5+ years (without significant change). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
121Merrimac Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Jeseph said: Not quite a vote for JW though, is it? Good thing it's not election night, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yussi1870 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 One area Whitesell can work on is his use of timeouts. When he, or the opposing coach, call a timeout, Whitesell uses a good 30 seconds in consultation with his assistants while his players stand around. By the time he figures out what he wants to say, the timeout is over and the team has hardly had a chance to understand the tactics. Meanwhile the other team has used the full time out for the coach to speak to the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 hours ago, yussi1870 said: One area Whitesell can work on is his use of timeouts. When he, or the opposing coach, call a timeout, Whitesell uses a good 30 seconds in consultation with his assistants while his players stand around. By the time he figures out what he wants to say, the timeout is over and the team has hardly had a chance to understand the tactics. Meanwhile the other team has used the full time out for the coach to speak to the players. This is a very common practice. Coach Jack does it with the women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yussi1870 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 4 hours ago, BrooklynBull said: This is a very common practice. Coach Jack does it with the women. Would be interesting to see a correlation with court success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocCas86 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Not sure where to post, but Hurley is having a tough year at ASU. ASU only scored 29 points tonight in loss to WSU...overall record is 2-6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, DocCas86 said: Not sure where to post, but Hurley is having a tough year at ASU. ASU only scored 29 points tonight in loss to WSU...overall record is 2-6 Just saw this after I posted the same thing in another thread. Wonder what the temperature of his seat is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire17 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Maybe if Whitesell can’t deliver, the Bulls would get Hurley back. Although, I don’t think that would be an improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBlearns Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, DocCas86 said: Not sure where to post, but Hurley is having a tough year at ASU. ASU only scored 29 points tonight in loss to WSU...overall record is 2-6 Noah Williams leading scorer for Washington St tonight with 14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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