DaBulls99 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 13 hours ago, promotherobot said: I'll lose a lot of respect for Lance if he takes this job. Ask Turner Gill what KU did for his career. There will be better jobs available after 2021. This is a terrible take. Lance has done an amazing and unprecedented job here. If he feels this will better him and his family, he’s earned it. He’s no Spring chicken and has grinded for a long time. I have nothing but the utmost respect for him either way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 If, when, Lance leaves, whether it’s Kansas or after next season, I just hope we are forward thinking with the next head coaching hire. Bringing in Lance was a great move. A winning coach who wanted to move up the ranks. I want a repeat of that. Someone who knows that winning at UB while raising their own profile is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigo230 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Within the last 2 hours, people who cover this stuff think KU has wrapped up their search.. it appears to be down to Leipold and Monken with Skip Holtz also in the mix. The guy from Texas A&M has pulled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotherobot Posted April 28, 2021 Author Share Posted April 28, 2021 7 hours ago, DaBulls99 said: This is a terrible take. Lance has done an amazing and unprecedented job here. If he feels this will better him and his family, he’s earned it. He’s no Spring chicken and has grinded for a long time. I have nothing but the utmost respect for him either way. Why is this a terrible take? You leave after spring ball for a team that is a historically bad program. Pretty much guarantees this year is a total wash, but the losses will still be on your record. Not to mention it leaves us in a lurch. Just an ugly time to leave for all concerned. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChubbyHubby Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Based on FBI crime data, Lawrence is not one of the safest communities in America. Relative to Kansas, Lawrence has a crime rate that is higher than 92% of the state's cities and towns of all sizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChubbyHubby Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 The risk of tornado damage in Lawrence is much higher than Kansas average and is much higher than the national average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ub2019 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, promotherobot said: Why is this a terrible take? You leave after spring ball for a team that is a historically bad program. Pretty much guarantees this year is a total wash, but the losses will still be on your record. Not to mention it leaves us in a lurch. Just an ugly time to leave for all concerned. Sets his family up with millions of dollars for generations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecoveringHillbilly Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) Most recent twitter talk is it will be Monken, so let's see if the scuttlebutt is right, for our sakes. Edited April 28, 2021 by RecoveringHillbilly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 37 minutes ago, RecoveringHillbilly said: Most recent twitter talk is it will be Monken, so let's see if the scuttlebutt is right, for our sakes. Regardless of the outcome, Kansas is a trainwreck and completely screwed this up. To bring in a current head coach is just in poor taste all around, but I guess with big time football who cares, just do what you need to do for yourself. Hopefully Lance stays this year and gets an offer from a real school next year and we find a solid assistant on the rise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBoy Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I am happy enough to keep Leipold for another season, but what does it say about this guy that he can't even get some of the worst P5 jobs in the country in Illinois and Kansas? Is just winning a bowl game at Buffalo not good enough? I am just confused why is he not getting any of these jobs that he is obviously very interested in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChubbyHubby Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 There's always the chance that he was offered this job or any of the others, and he turned them down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotherobot Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 5 hours ago, ub2019 said: Sets his family up with millions of dollars for generations. I suppose that's a nice consolation prize for possibly flushing your career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 A part of si.com reports down to Monken and Holtz. https://www.si.com/college/georgia/news/dan-lanning-out-kansas-georgia-football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoughToughBulls15 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 I would really like to see Alnutt come out and offer Lance close to what he deserves after all this (granted he stays). The fact he is only making 500k/year is ridiculous. We were shelling out close to 1M for Oats and we should do the same if not more for Lance if we are serious about becoming a consistent competitive program. If we are only willing to pay our most successful football coach in D1 era 500k/year then we as fans have to temper our expectations on the ceiling and floor of this program. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB05 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 43 minutes ago, RoughToughBulls15 said: I would really like to see Alnutt come out and offer Lance close to what he deserves after all this (granted he stays). The fact he is only making 500k/year is ridiculous. We were shelling out close to 1M for Oats and we should do the same if not more for Lance if we are serious about becoming a consistent competitive program. If we are only willing to pay our most successful football coach in D1 era 500k/year then we as fans have to temper our expectations on the ceiling and floor of this program. He has gotten raises pretty much every year, but yes now that he’s stabilized and grown the program to be consistently competitive it’s time to up our game. A lot comes down to donors too though, I know they had a lot lined up for Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB92 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 41 minutes ago, RoughToughBulls15 said: I would really like to see Alnutt come out and offer Lance close to what he deserves after all this (granted he stays). The fact he is only making 500k/year is ridiculous. We were shelling out close to 1M for Oats and we should do the same if not more for Lance if we are serious about becoming a consistent competitive program. If we are only willing to pay our most successful football coach in D1 era 500k/year then we as fans have to temper our expectations on the ceiling and floor of this program. I suspect that this will happen, should LL stay, during the next few weeks. https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/ You can see where Lance is on this list. Towards the top, certainly, but probably would need to move up into the $800k range. 2020 NCAAF COACHES SALARIES -- UPDATED AS OF NOV. 17, 2020 RK SCHOOL CONF COACH SCHEDULED SCHOOL PAY CONTRACT YEAR PANDEMIC REDUCTION ACTUAL SCHOOL PAY TOTAL PAY TOTAL PANDEMIC REDUCTION SCHOOL BUYOUT AS OF 12/1/20 79 Toledo MAC Jason Candle $1,175,000 $76,923 $1,098,077 $1,098,077 $76,923 $2,158,333 87 Central Michigan MAC Jim McElwain $815,000 $6,000 $809,000 $809,000 $6,000 $2,000,000 99 Western Michigan MAC Tim Lester $800,000 $100,000 $700,000 $709,700 $200,000 $500,000 105 Buffalo MAC Lance Leipold $624,300 $0 $624,300 $624,300 $0 $1,936,725 108 Northern Illinois MAC Thomas Hammock $620,204 $52,020 $568,184 $568,184 $52,020 $1,380,693 109 Ohio MAC Frank Solich $589,928 $29,497 $560,431 $561,431 $58,993 $604,676 110 Miami (Ohio) MAC Chuck Martin $550,000 $36,667 $513,333 $513,333 $55,000 $1,500,000 112 Bowling Green MAC Scot Loeffler $530,000 $50,000 $480,000 $480,000 $100,000 $1,560,417 113 Eastern Michigan MAC Chris Creighton $480,000 $20,575 $459,425 $459,425 $41,150 $800,000 114 Akron MAC Tom Arth $500,000 $45,833 $454,167 $454,167 $100,000 $921,719 115 Ball State MAC Mike Neu $468,000 $25,167 $442,833 $447,833 $45,300 $984,018 116 Kent State MAC Sean Lewis $460,000 $26,833 $433,167 $433,167 $46,000 $750,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verandaman Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 4 hours ago, RoughToughBulls15 said: I would really like to see Alnutt come out and offer Lance close to what he deserves after all this (granted he stays). The fact he is only making 500k/year is ridiculous. We were shelling out close to 1M for Oats and we should do the same if not more for Lance if we are serious about becoming a consistent competitive program. If we are only willing to pay our most successful football coach in D1 era 500k/year then we as fans have to temper our expectations on the ceiling and floor of this program. So Lance, is that you masquerading as RoughToughBulls15? Agree with you ('er, RTB15) anyway! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 5 hours ago, RoughToughBulls15 said: I would really like to see Alnutt come out and offer Lance close to what he deserves after all this (granted he stays). The fact he is only making 500k/year is ridiculous. We were shelling out close to 1M for Oats and we should do the same if not more for Lance if we are serious about becoming a consistent competitive program. If we are only willing to pay our most successful football coach in D1 era 500k/year then we as fans have to temper our expectations on the ceiling and floor of this program. Except for the fact he earned over $680,000.00 last year, per seethroughny.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoughToughBulls15 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BrooklynBull said: Except for the fact he earned over $680,000.00 last year, per seethroughny.net 500 -700 same difference. The point still stands we were paying Oats more, and if we have any dreams of becoming an elite program we have to keep coaches. You keep coaches by paying them what they deserve. Lance being our football coach for the next 15 years is as valuable as it gets. He should be the highest paid coach in the conference. *By the word elite I mean, maybe have a shot at moving up conferences in the future and consistently being in the MAC Championship and at bowl games* Edited April 29, 2021 by RoughToughBulls15 Wording Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ub2019 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoughToughBulls15 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Bye Lance - Thanks for everything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeyG Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Well that sucks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Horrible timing, horrible job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gxtrex Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bill said: Horrible timing, horrible job. It is like May already...that's pretty late in the game. Do we get any money from a buy-out at least? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGBull Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 This one is going to hurt, hopefully we don’t have a bunch of decommits and transfers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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