UBinMD Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tee4three said: Mike Anderson let go from St John's, maybe alnutt will be intrigued Might as well interview Patrick Ewing too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4three Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, UBinMD said: Might as well interview Patrick Ewing too. More to Anderson than Patrick Ewing or any coach let go He has worked with alnutt in the past, and has had success at previous stops and very successful at a mid major level 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tee4three said: More to Anderson than Patrick Ewing or any coach let go He has worked with alnutt in the past, and has had success at previous stops and very successful at a mid major level Definitely an intriguing candidate, would need at least double JW contact I would imagine. He was Big East Coach of the year in 2021, fired in 2023, what a fickle business. I guess 7-13 and 8th place in the conference didn't impress anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire17 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 hours ago, John said: The A-10 is a higher and better overall conference with overall better teams and thus more bucks in many ways. Can’t compare what coaches are paid in the A-10 versus the MAC. Between alums and donors along with tv contracts we can’t compete. Such as life in the low rent districts. Agreed. However, it may come as a surprise (as it was for me) to learn that the MAAC on average pays more to its men’s basketball head coaches than the MAC. I think it’s a disgrace what some of the coaches are paid, but that’s the world we live in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Big 4 Hoops Blogger said: Mark Schmidt has a long track record of success and built that program from a laughing stock in the A10 coming off probation to a school that has made three NCAA Tournaments (should be four), a NIT Final Four and a perennial contender in a Top 10 conference in college basketball during his tenure. One year doesn't destroy his reputation, especially when they didn't have one returning player from his team last season. So while both teams were especially awful this year (Bona 200, UB 204 in KenPom), I'm more inclined to give Schmidt a pass than Jim Whitesell. Whitesell has been a D1 head coach for over a decade and hasn't made a NCAA Tournament at this level. Spending money doesn't guarantee success but it certainly helps. My comment was not a shot at Schmidt but at UB Horns Up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBull Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 37 minutes ago, squire17 said: Agreed. However, it may come as a surprise (as it was for me) to learn that the MAAC on average pays more to its men’s basketball head coaches than the MAC. I think it’s a disgrace what some of the coaches are paid, but that’s the world we live in. Public (MAC) vs Private (MAAC) could be why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Tee4three said: More to Anderson than Patrick Ewing or any coach let go He has worked with alnutt in the past, and has had success at previous stops and very successful at a mid major level His style is definitely more mid major suited imo. Guard oriented and pressing. Cause chaos and get up and down the floor. Not real good half court offense. Might actually work with the roster we have lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Tee4three said: Mike Anderson let go from St John's, maybe alnutt will be intrigued I am a fan of his but Mike Anderson will be too much$$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBinMD Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 57 minutes ago, DooleyBull06 said: His style is definitely more mid major suited imo. Guard oriented and pressing. Cause chaos and get up and down the floor. Not real good half court offense. Might actually work with the roster we have lol We don't play half court offense now, is that an upgrade? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooleyBull06 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 31 minutes ago, UBinMD said: We don't play half court offense now, is that an upgrade? 🤣 Exactly. The pieces are in place lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 hours ago, squire17 said: Agreed. However, it may come as a surprise (as it was for me) to learn that the MAAC on average pays more to its men’s basketball head coaches than the MAC. From what I've seen they're still slightly below the MAC. Problem with getting an accurate number in the MAAC is the private institutions. There's a bit of a timing discrepancy between the two articles but I don't think Canisius and Niagara are paying more than we are. https://www.crainscleveland.com/kevin-kleps-blog/akrons-groce-ohios-boals-top-mac-mens-hoops-coaches-2020-21-pay https://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/sports/college/marist/2019/03/14/maac-coaches-pay-gap-between-top-teams-coaches-compensation/3160693002/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 10 hours ago, clodney said: I eagerly await April 6 to reiterate my comments from a year ago. Is it 400k or 300k now? Doesn't it make sense that 300k with three seasons left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire17 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 4 hours ago, BrooklynBull said: Public (MAC) vs Private (MAAC) could be why. Perhaps, although the proximity of so many MAAC schools to NYC may be a bigger factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird96 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 40 minutes ago, squire17 said: Perhaps, although the proximity of so many MAAC schools to NYC may be a bigger factor. Speaking of the MAAC, Marist just became the first 11 seed to make it to the championship game. From last place to playing for the chance to go to the Big Dance. This is why you’ve gotta love CBB this time of year. See if they can knock off Pitino and Iona tomorrow night. Ok, now back to expressing how much love and respect we have for our coach 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBulls99 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 9 hours ago, Kevin said: Is it 400k or 300k now? Doesn't it make sense that 300k with three seasons left? Not sure what the total is. But, according to TBN article the contract expires April 5, 2025. There is also a duty to mitigate clause which could easily cut whatever the number is in half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire17 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Isn’t it ironic that Oats’ team could be the first over-all seed, and Bobby’s team could be the last at-large team selected? Both have a connection to Danny White…whose brother, Mike might be looking for a head coaching job in a year or two, if he doesn’t right the ship at Georgia. Bulls went 1-7 versus teams that are headed to NCAAs, including 4 games that were close losses: Drake, Howard, Kent twice. Here’s hoping they schedule like that again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFH47 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Whoever it was from UB who gave and then extended the contract with Whitesell should never be allowed to be at the negotiation table again! He was the safe choice after Oates left but he never should have been extended especially with those staggering buyout numbers. Knowledgeable basketball people knew we wasn’t going anywhere. He is an assistant coach at best. Mark Alnutt should also been shown the door. Can anyone recall what he has accomplished? I am a longtime season ticket holder and will renew once again and pay the extremely inflated seat license fee. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 56 minutes ago, JFH47 said: Mark Alnutt should also been shown the door. Can anyone recall what he has accomplished? I'd say he's overseen a relatively successful football program and kept an extremely successful WBB coach at UB until her alma mater came calling. Remember when PSU offered Jack and she stayed here? He also got UB some extra money by re-signing Oats before the Bama Bagman came to Grand Island. That's just on field success by the top 3 programs. I'm critical of his extension of Whitesell (in hindsight) and lack of vision for the fans of the football program. No public plan released for improving the experience at UB Stadium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubbulls84 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, rma said: About time, was probably a year overdue but it had to happen. We were one of the top mid majors in the country and went back to accepting mediocrity. Whitesell was a really nice guy, but just didn’t have the fire and determination to be a head coach, sure he’ll probably get an assistant job somewhere for last couple years of his career. Don’t know where Buffalo going with the hire, I would love Hodgson but not sure if they going that way. Cant be someone on the backend of career, gotta be someone who is up and coming. As much as many of us don’t like Alnutt, give him credit for making this move which was a must in my opinion. Edited March 11, 2023 by Ubbulls84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuchMany Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 It was time. I was as optimistic as anyone coming into this season and I was encouraged by some of the early results with a mix-and-match collection of players. Plus I don't see any point in obsessing over negative potentialities, but to each their own and the critics proved right here (hell I checked out six weeks ago). The way I see it, these were the fatal flaws for this regime: 1. Lack of shooting/skill, over reliance on athleticism and positional tweeners. 2. Unintelligent play, we're the best academic school in the MAC and we play the least cerebral brand of ball. 3. Broken recruiting, relying on JUCO and transfer over building a roster with traditional recruits. 4. Lack of excitement, it's entertainment after all and JW just didn't inspire - I'm a rabid STH and even my support completely collapsed not due to results, but just a lack of "juice" around the program. 5. Staff, was never impressed by his guys, lack of adjustments, the bench was always dead compared to visitors. I'm excited to see where this coaching search goes. I think our brand power from the Oats days is not completely dead and we fired Jim because we have a relatively big fish in our sights. Here's hoping. Go UB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKBullsfan Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Bold. I like this. Can’t except mediocrity after the success we had prior to Whitesell. Hodgson or Jerry Macnamara should get serious consideration. Go Bulls! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1BRJjZWweqaJw?s=20 This podcast broke the news yesterday right around the 1:24:00 mark. Some interesting comments about Hodgson on there too. They had the news, or at least broke it, before Rothstein did so it's interesting what their comments are. I'd be surprised if Hodgson would be interested but these guys know something we didn't. I stopped actively rooting for coaches to lose their job a while ago. I wish him the best wherever he goes but I'm glad we're moving on. Hopefully this renews some excitement in the MBB program. Edited March 11, 2023 by rma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButlerAlumDad Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Lots of local connections to poach... One of the Berkuns, Adam Cohen, Hodgson, Beilein, MacDonald, Nwora, Battle, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Very nice man, a fine assistant coach, but was not the right guy to lead this program. Wish him and his family the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikescherrer8 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 It was time. It’s sad. Whitesell was a good recruiter. He had the talent. In the end he just couldn’t get the most out of his players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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